Check your facts we wont be pulling out of Afghanistan. We have a reason to be there. We'll be pulling out of Iraq because we had no reason to be there.[/quote]
I did check the facts Donnie.
If you feel that you have reason to be there in Afghanistan...good for you...I respect your opinion.
I'm a Canuck though and I don't understand what the hell we, as Canadians are doing in Afghanistan in the first place?...that was my point.
My other point, in the comment I made was that if the US decides
to get out of the place, then I'm all for it...simply put because our
"lapdog" government will have no recourse but to break camp, pull stump and get the hell out of there as well...albeit a little too late.
That's just the way we are and it's pretty sad and desperate in my opinion to see a nation such as ours, involved in a war with a nation that could kick our ass in a heartbeat. They are doing it now...just very slowly. We will (hopefully) and eventually come out of this with a lesson learned. Our losses will not matter to them, even if we and the rest of the world realizes that we were there to try and make it a better place to live. The Afghani people will someday turn to one another and ask the question..."Hey?, where did all of the Canadians go"?...the stock answer will be..."well we killed quite a few of them because they tried changing our way of living, and overall, we just didn't accept it".
We just lost 3 more soldiers yesterday over there...and for what reason?
Are we going to change the way that they live? Change their ideology and religious beliefs? Hope that they come around to "our way" of thinking? I highly doubt that.
Once again, because of our involvement, we are now on their list
of countries to terrorize...and once again, Bravo Paul Martin and Stevie Harper! What's next? After this fiasco, should we follow in to a scrap with Iran?...Pakistan?...Korea?...what the hell...why not? They too will kick our ass in a heartbeat! For what it's worth, we don't even have a Government at this point, so this further cements my thoughts on why the hell we are involved in the first place!!!
Not to mention the cost of this "war", but do not for a minute think that they are not so stupid to realize that the financial burden is taking it's toll on our economic situations as of late. Certainly doesn't help when we continually pour money into a war that we will never win. Seriously, this just does not make any sense to me.
I would also have to add that they are systematically, conquering, and dividing the people of our nations by waging the attacks that they have been successful at carrying out thus far.
No one wants this or finds it acceptable, but their tactics strike a nerve deep down inside...causing us to question ourselves as individuals and as a nation as a whole in regards to our level of retaliation towards the attackers...plus...make us further question ourselves in regards to a democratic and Just system on how we deal with these terrorists once we have them in our custody. Does "Gitmo" make any sense?
Keep in mind as well, these people have little to lose. Their day is looked forward to by getting up and cleaning their guns. Figuring out new methods of bombing the enemy in a suicidal manner. They don't care.
They are also laughing at us and feeling good about the fact that they have us on our toes these days...tightening up security, having us look over our collective shoulders, putting new restrictions on border crossings and scrutinize our bordering neighbors with doubt and suspicion.
In the old days, it was all "give us your hungry, your tired, your poor"...now it's
"Get The F*ck Out...We're Full"!!!...or "you're on the No Fly list...sorry, you aren't allowed in"!
I know, a lot of people still believe that if we ever get our hands on the ever elusive Bin Laden character, all will be well with the world...ain't gonna happen!
Even if he is captured, then what? Hang him? They did that with Hussein...lotta good that did huh? There are umpteen more
just aching to take up the cause and carry on in the tradition that they were born and bred with. I say, let them stew in their own ignorance...let them beat themselves up and kill each other because of their draconian beliefs...let them look forward to reaching Nirvana and the 72 virgins promised to them upon their demise when the neighbour shoots him for sleeping with his goat?
Who cares? It's quite obvious that these people are barbaric due to their archaic ways of thinking...dipolmacy to them is not an option.
They don't care...why should we?
Democracy is unheard of and consist of a ridiculous set of ideals that are foreign to the vast majority that make up their country. I would think it difficult for them at this point in our primal epoch as a life form, to be able to even grasp the concept of democracy, let alone have it forced upon them?...such as our futile attempts to do so now.
For what it's worth, and I'm sure most will disagree with the following, but playing footsie with these people will not win a so called war.
If we are going to defeat these people for whatever reasons, we have to go in aggressively, and take them out, lock, stock and barrel. Send a signal out to the rest of the world that if we are targeted for attack, and ARE ATTACKED!, all hell will break loose leaving none of them standing. That's the only way it can be won.
North America along with other peace loving nations of the world fought hard and fast to overcome the last great agitator, and we were collectively victorious in our final stand. Unfortunately, it took extreme measures to do so...a lot of lives lost, along with a nasty legacy that we will remember for years to come...but it got the job done.
I'm not sure about how anyone else feels about this, but when I occasionally witness the news clip of George Bush uttering those
words of his..."Mission Accomplished"...I have to cringe.
Sorry, Mission was not accomplished, Mission still isn't accomplished and I don't like to be negative or a seer to any degree, but Mission won't be accomplished in my opinion...no matter what kind of deadline you impose on the issue.
It's rather heartbreaking to also witness those that actually DO believe in a democratic way of life, hitting a fallen statue of a dictator with a shoe? Yeah, that's gotta hurt? Kind of similar to burning a flag or a hated leader in efigy?...We sure have come a long way haven't we?
Once again, I'm not here to hurl insults...just saying it as I see it.
Besides, my "Karma" hasn't taken a hit in weeks...hahahahahahaha.
*DISCLAIMER* - No politicians were harmed or injured in any manner during this rant. ;D
Thanks
Kim[/quote]
Kim do know any thing about N.A.T.O.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nato
The U.S. & Canada are part of N.A.T.O. or North Atlantic Treaty Organization. When any member of N.A.T.O. is attacked member states agree to mutual defense in response to an attack by any external party. The U.S. was attacked by Al-Qaeda who at the time was mostly based & operated out of Afghanistan. So basically the Taliban was the ruling party in Afghanistan an by them giving refuge to an supporting Al-Qaeda we the U.S. were attacked by Afghanistan which was a external party. By Canada signing the N.A.T.O. treaty Canada pledged to defend N.A.T.O. members. That is why Canada and other members of N.A.T.O. went to war with Afghanistan to defend & support the U.S. because we were attacked by a external party that being Afghanistan. Do you think the U.S. would not defended Canada if you were attacked? Yes we would defend Canada & any member of N.A.T.O. if they were attacked by a external party.