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Post by Jesse on Apr 18, 2024 13:26:49 GMT -5
One of my favorites. Founding member of the Allman Brothers Band, long-standing guitar player and main songwriter (along with Gregg Allman) Dickie Betts has passed away at age 80. Sucks, but this is going to keep happening. And nobody's doing a damn thing (in the music media anyhow) about promoting new music worthy of replacing these guys. So, it just hits harder. Not that the loss of a great guitarist and man doesn't hit hard enough. But, hate to sound callous: These guys are all old and dying and I have to wonder what's going to happen musically when they are all gone. Allman Brothers Band music has had a 50+ year staying power, how many '90's bands are gonna hold up that long? How about any artist from the 2000's?
Sorry, this thread should be ALL about Dickie Betts, but it brings a lot of other thoughts into my brain as well.
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Post by Jesse on Apr 17, 2024 13:27:35 GMT -5
In a nutshell, Cummings revoked the right to public performances of any song he wrote or cowrote. Which is pretty much all the Guess Who songs anybody paying money to see the Guess Who would want to hear. I sorta get it, but my question is "Why now?" No one did a damn thing about trademarking The Guess Who name until bassist Jim Kale did just that in 1987, long after Cummings and Randy Bachman had left the group. In the 1990's, Kale put together a new The Guess Who band featuring original drummer Gary Peterson and nobody else anyone would know. Not exactly on the up and up morally, but this was in the mid-1990's. And nobody said a fucking thing! Until last year Cummings and Bachman filed a lawsuit against the touring Guess Who band. Again, I understand their complaints, but, why in 2023-2024 when Kale trademarked the name in 1987 and has had a touring band since the mid-1990's? My guess is that having a touring Guess Who band, even without key original members, promoted the music and got people to buy CD's (and later downloads) which put royalty $$$ into the pockets of the guys who wrote those songs....... Cummings and Bachman. NOW, nobody buys CDs, nor downloads and the only way to make money is to tour. Cummings and Bachman tried touring as Cummings/Bachman, but they could REALLY draw crowds and more money under The Guess Who banner, BUT, there's already a band who LEGALLY has the right to perform as The Guess Who, so here come the lawsuits. That's my educated guess as to why this is all happening now.
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Post by Jesse on Apr 17, 2024 13:06:02 GMT -5
Burton Cummings, the founding singer and songwriter of the Guess Who, has taken an extraordinary measure to stop the band’s current iteration from performing his songs. In October, Cummings, along with original guitarist Randy Bachman, filed a lawsuit to stop the current version of the Guess Who from performing under that moniker. At the time, it was the latest chapter in a dispute that stretched over a decade, with Cummings and Bachman fighting with bassist Jim Kale and drummer Garry Peterson over the band’s name. Though the lawsuit is still ongoing, Cummings has opted to terminate certain rights agreements on his songs to stop the Guess Who from performing them in concert. It’s a complex strategy that breaks down something like this: Virtually every venue in the country has an agreement with performance rights organizations, commonly called PROs. These organizations collect royalties on behalf of songwriters whenever their work is performed. By ending the agreements pertaining to his songs, Cummings has made it impossible for the current version of the Guess Who to perform the material in PRO-aligned venues. “I’m willing to do anything to stop the fake band; they’re taking [Bachman and my] life story and pretending it’s theirs,” Cummings explained to Rolling Stone. “They’re not the people who made these records and they shouldn’t act like they did. This doesn’t stop this cover band from playing their shows, it just stops them from playing the songs I wrote. If the songs are performed by the fake Guess Who, they will be sued for every occurrence.” Cummings' Action Will Have Serious Repercussions for All Parties According to Rolling Stone, venues that booked the Guess Who could also face legal repercussions if the band decided to continue performing Cummings’ material without the proper licensing. It’s a bold move that could seriously damage the ability for the Guess Who to make a profit. Cummings penned some of the group’s biggest hits, including “American Woman,” “These Eyes” and “No Time.” The band would be hard-pressed to put a show together without such classics in their set. Already, the Guess Who’s next five shows have been canceled due to Cummings’ actions. Though the move has stifled the Guess Who, it also poses significant risk to Cummings himself. By canceling his PRO agreements, the songwriter will not be able to receive royalties for his work. In addition to live performances, PROs collect payments for material played on the radio, television, in commercials and other public spaces. As such, Cummings’ action amounts to revenue suicide – the cancelation of the PRO agreements leaves him unable to earn money off of these songs. 'The Name Is Worthless Without Those Songs' “Yes, I’m going to lose some money, but we’re going to find out what’s worth what. I will not have this fake band going on any longer,” Cummings explained, noting the risk in his decision. “I’m going to lose some money, but … the name is worthless without those songs. So what are they going to do? ‘Hey, the Guess Who is playing but we can’t do ‘Share the Land’ or ‘American Woman,’ we can’t do ‘These Eyes.’ Nobody’s gonna be there.” “How much is my life’s work worth? You can’t put it in dollars and cents,” Cummings continued. “It’s wrong what they’ve done and for years, nobody did anything about it. But we’re doing something now, and this may set some precedents because there are other acts out there that aren’t real either.” Read More: Burton Cummings Makes Drastic Move to Stop 'Fake' Guess Who | ultimateclassicrock.com/burton-cummings-guess-who-song-rights/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2XPgEiPeHT3nOB183ua52WP7Du4e_NTMiUwSUD1U5A9Pjvz_EOY6AS1dA_aem_AaBAoJ-_z120sWLx9iyXhac0ahyCxakuRxHFfGC-VJ7Xe1LxtsBh2UisXxbHZqC43TBXIc1gPA73Hnlt_Mg2Gau9&utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral
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Post by Jesse on Apr 11, 2024 6:58:15 GMT -5
I’ve got numerous threads here on newer artists I’ve been listen to, what’s everyone else listening to that’s a new artist?
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Post by Jesse on Mar 30, 2024 21:04:21 GMT -5
Bringing this thread back after listening to new Accept, which is ok, but these girls are incredible.
(Takes about 2 minutes for this song to kick in, but when it does.... holy shit!
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Post by Jesse on Mar 30, 2024 20:55:55 GMT -5
Another new Accept tune. I like this one better, but.......... I dunno, still lacking.... something. It's good, just not great. Definitely longer than it should be. I used to think that maybe i'm just not into Metal anymore, but then when I heard the band Lovebites, I realized that I absolutely still love Metal, it just has to be really good! Most of my old favorites are just making "ok" Metal and that includes Accept, Helloween, Metal Church, U.D.O., etc
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Post by Jesse on Mar 30, 2024 10:16:19 GMT -5
I ask this because I'm on a few Molly Hatchet facebook groups and I feel like Molly Hatchet is ALL many of the members listen to. I mean, they have all of 12 studio albums, a covers album, a "greatest hits re-recorded" album and several live albums. And some of these groups are dedicated to the "original-era" band only, so there's even LESS music to choose from. I dunno, maybe I'm cut from a different cloth, but despite Molly Hatchet being my favorite artist, I RARELY listen to their albums. And, by "rarely", I mean almost never. I have all their music on my iPod, so I really only listen to them when a tune comes up on shuffle mode (which is actually fairly often) and I have a few mix-Cds that I listen to semi-regularly that have a few Hatchet songs on them, but I really don't listen to them that much. I know all the music, it's great, I love it, but I have it memorized and don't need to hear it all the time. I tend to spend my listening hours checking out other stuff, mostly newer music, trying to find other artists to compete with my long-time favorites.
What about you guys?
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Post by Jesse on Mar 30, 2024 10:08:28 GMT -5
After hearing Bucky talk up Max Webster for years on facebook and now here, I need to ask him: What 10 Max Webster songs do I NEED on my iPod?
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Post by Jesse on Mar 21, 2024 17:08:13 GMT -5
One of my favorite Christian Rock bands at one time. They lost me when guitarist Rex Carroll departed and singer Scott Wenzell carried on with an atrocious version of the group. Now, Rex Carroll is back, but Wenzell is gone. Wenzell, for all his faults, had a very distinctive vocal, almost a dead-on Stephen Pearcy (Ratt). The vocalist here doesn't sound ANYTHING like that, so it's hard for me to accept as a Whitecross song, BUT, it's pretty good! Worth checking out some more of their new material.
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Post by Jesse on Mar 21, 2024 8:08:55 GMT -5
What bands did a member or members leave and form a new band nearly as good as the original? I'm thinking: Judas Priest and K.K.'s Priest Helloween and Gamma Ray Black Sabbath and Ozzy (or Dio for that matter) Accept and U.D.O Outlaws and Henry Paul Band
Uhm, I'm sure there's more......
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Post by Jesse on Mar 10, 2024 14:26:37 GMT -5
Another one would be Heart. They spent the 1990's dicking around as "The Lovemongers" and cuddling up to the Grunge movement. When they did tour, the shows were a mess of cover songs, lesser-known album tracks and acoustic/alternate versions of hits. Much like Triumph, they weren't going to get radio play with new material post-1995 no matter what, "Jupiter's Darling" didn't even seem to try. With a revolving door band lineup, the focus became much moreso on the sisters Ann and Nancy Wilson, while watching any live footage of Heart pre-1993, it was clearly a FULL Band live (not just the sisters with backing musicians). Look up video footage of their 1990 tour, they could've continued to pack arenas and amphitheaters for the last 30 years with a similar show.
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Post by Jesse on Mar 9, 2024 16:06:20 GMT -5
What artists wasted years not doing anything constructive and possibly wasted their careers/legacy by not doing anything for so long?
Triumph. They are the ones who got me thinking of this thread since this past week Rik Emmett came out and stated the obvious: Triumph is done. Sure, Emmett probably split with them at about the right time (1988/89) as they were probably done charting songs and selling albums, but they could've made a damn good living in the 1990's through the 2000's doing "Greatest Hits" tours. And that touring may have kept more of their songs in rotation of Classic Rock radio stations and persuaded a younger generation to buy their Cds (1990's), download their songs (early 2000's) and stream their songs (today). I'm sure Emmett has no regrets as he had a decent (though understated) career as a solo artist, doing what he wanted, making new music, touring and playing only the Triumph songs he wanted when he wanted. Still, I feel they wasted over 30 years doing nothing as Triumph and now they're really too old to even think about it.
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Post by Jesse on Mar 5, 2024 16:11:32 GMT -5
I don't really listen to the radio much, but I check out the local radio stations' websites and look at their "recently played" songs. This new one from the Black Crowes has been getting a lot of air time on the local Mainstream Rock station, so I decided to check it out. Song is ok. The lyrical cadence for the verses is pretty much a rip-off of "Jealous Again" and the whole song really sounds a little too familiar. I'm all about derivative music, but this one is a bit too "paint-by-numbers" in its progressions and arrangement. Still, it's ok. At least I know Mainstream Rock radio is playing ONE decent song...... and in relation to the rest of their daily playlist, I'm sure it sounds awesome in that context! Oh, and about the video: Chris Robinson looking like the love child of Robert Plant and Mick Jagger here and his dancing is extreme cringe
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Post by Jesse on Mar 2, 2024 17:04:49 GMT -5
.......playing THIS version of "Stairway To Heaven" on Classic Rock radio stations?
I seriously turn the station EVERY TIME "Stairway To Heaven" comes on the radio (the rare times I'm actually LISTENING to the radio), but I could get into this version being played. Kick ass!
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Post by Jesse on Mar 2, 2024 17:00:40 GMT -5
I WANT to like this so bad, but it kinda bores me. yup sorry Jesse, move on, a bit like the new Blackberry Smoke cd, I want to like it but it's not happening I'm afraid to say so .. I'm bore of it as well, maybe it will grow on me or maybe not!!! I've only heard 1 song from the new Blackberry Smoke album and I actually LOVE it! But their last few albums have been relatively hit or miss, so I'm kinda afraid to listen to any more of the new album and thus be disappointed Back to Accept, I really haven't liked much of the Mark Tornillo-era Accept music. Don't hate it, but just seems like the same old same old. And that goes double for U.D.O., though I did dig the 3 "Dirkschneider and the Old Gang" songs released a few years ago.
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Post by Jesse on Mar 2, 2024 16:06:55 GMT -5
I WANT to like this so bad, but it kinda bores me.
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Post by Jesse on Feb 28, 2024 20:32:14 GMT -5
I remember reading an article in Kerrang Magazine in the mid 80’s on Guns n Roses…I went out and bought their first EP and loved their cover of Mama Kin…I just had a feeling they were going to be huge so as soon as Appetite for Destruction was released I bought it and loved it….Well they hit the Big time pretty Quickly and then around 1988 I gave another new band a chance…The Dogs D’Amour…That first release “In a Dynamite Jet Saloon” and their Acoustic EP “Graveyard of Empty Bottles” were every bit as good as Guns n Roses….They had a cool look(that kind of Dirty Ass Rock n Roll Gypsy/Pirate look/style)…I thought they were going to be as big if not Bigger than Guns n Roses… Before Guns n Roses I really thought Hanoi Rocks was going to be Huge but just when they were about to break it here the Tragedy of the death of their drummer Razzel kind of ended the band. Michael Monroe is still one of my favorite Frontmen I was going for bands that I thought would sound better to me than they did/do. Sounds like you were listing bands you thought would be bigger commercially than they were/are...... which I had planned on doing a thread of anyway So, here's my list of bands/artists I thought would be bigger than they were/are Skid Row-Looking back, maybe I shouldn't have been surprised that they weren't bigger. They were plenty big at the time, but I really thought they'd end up bigger than Guns'n Roses. That debut was killer! Better singer than GNR, TWO great guitar players, knack for hooks, they SHOULD HAVE been bigger than Guns'n Roses. But, as I said: looking back, I shouldn't have been surprised. Debut was great, but more "Hair Metal" in style than straight-ahead hard rock. 2nd album debuted at #1 on the charts, but in an effort to sound "heavier", it just wasn't as good as the debut and the wheels fell off pretty quickly after grunge hit. Pirates Of The Mississippi- Country band, but came out around the same time as the Kentucky Headhunters and kinda mined the same "Southern Rock side" of Country music. From the getgo, the Pirates were slicker and better produced and I thought they'd ride that to superstardom. Again, in retrospect, I see what happened. Despite trying a few rockers as singles, their big hit was a ballad which pigeon-holed them. Much like the Kentucky Headhunters, after their debut, the record label, Country radio and the Country music media sorta turned their backs on them and toward the next shiny objects to promote to Country audiences. The difference between the two bands is the Kentucky Headhunters said "fuck it, we'll be a rock band and make music for our fans" whereas the Pirates of The Mississippi kept trying to appease the Nashville gods with slicker and slicker by-the-book Country music that didn't really appeal to anybody.
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Post by Jesse on Feb 25, 2024 14:54:18 GMT -5
I had never even heard of them until the reunion lineups in the late '80's/early '90's. My former bass player LOVED Little Feat! I have a few of their albums from the Lowell George days, I like them, but, to me, nothing compares to the hits they had with the reunited band, "Hate To Lose Your Lovin'", "Let It Roll" and "Texas Twister" especially! Used to play "Texas Twister" in my old band, I referred to it as "Finger Twister" cuz that main guitar lick made my fingers move in ways that just didn't seem normal to me.
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Post by Jesse on Feb 18, 2024 8:48:04 GMT -5
This is the band that people keep telling me that I should be listening to instead of Greta Van Fleet. I dunno. They don't suck, but I just can't get into them. Couple songs make for an enjoyable few minutes, but nothing I'm willing to spend money on. Sorry, for all their faults, I like Greta Van Fleet better absolutely love them Jesse As I said, they certainly don't "suck", but I haven't been able to get into them. But, I guess that's why they make different flavors of ice cream: not everyone is going to like the same stuff
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Post by Jesse on Feb 18, 2024 8:44:43 GMT -5
Couple more:
Dream Theater. Virtuoso musicians creating epic melodic Metal, on paper they should have been one of my all time favorites. In reality, while I respect their musicianship, they kinda bore me.
Dio. Powerhouse singer from Rainbow and Black Sabbath going solo, awesome! And those first two albums absolutely WERE awesome! Everything thereafter: Meh.
Peter Frampton. Guitarist from Humble Pie gone solo, killer live album, but always a bit softer and forgettable on his studio albums than expected.
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