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Post by Pete on Jul 6, 2004 17:00:40 GMT -5
For the wars, of course you found chemical weapons, of course the regime of Mr. Hussein ended (but right now I doubt it is any better yet...), so of course these wars turn out right at the end, but as the wars got started, you haven't had any proof for your theory! It isn't the right way to attack a nation because you just THINK there could be chemical weapons for example! And what I don't like is the opinion that America is the Worlds police and has to be first at every place a conflict occurs! After all I think this is just an economical game, if your economy is down, make a war and soon economy will grow again! Well, I won't write anymore about politics here, usually it ends up in harsh words, especially between germans and americans! I have family that lives in Germany in a town near Frankfurt that I can't remember the name of right now. We always have very fun political discussions. I always tell him that if we ever want double digit unemployment, and socialism I'd start taking his thoughts on American politics more seriously. Don't forget that before the war the Germans also believed Saddam's regime had chemical and biological weapons. They even voted in the UN for resolutions that Saddam and his regime needed to get rid of them. Even France believed that to be true. We all know it's true because in the 90s he used them on thousands of Iraqis. Also liberating Iraq was straining our economy not helping it. The area I agree with you 100% is that the U.S. should not be the world’s police. Also IMO Germany has the worlds best beer, sausage and mustard in the world. Sauerbraten is kick ass too!! My brother goes to Germany every summer for a month to visit and one year I hope to have enough $$ to go along and see your beautiful country in person instead of just pictures.
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Post by Jesse on Jul 6, 2004 17:08:09 GMT -5
I don't like that opinion either. That should be the UNs job, unfortunately the UN has seemed unwilling to do the task.
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Post by Jesse on Jul 6, 2004 17:16:09 GMT -5
If you'll recall, Bush was LYING. Believe what you want. Changing ones policy after an event like 9/11 hardly constitutes as "lying" in my book, but, hey, whatever, I'm obviously not gonna change your mind on this anymore than you're gonna change mine.
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Post by JaminJim on Jul 6, 2004 17:42:49 GMT -5
I liked the picture, lol. Not just 'cause it's Karry, I laugh at the Bush ones too. By golly, tain't nuttin' funnyer then the JaminJim ones, lmao!!
I also stay away from political posts.
I watched another board get torn apart by people who believe the things “opportunists” like Moore state.
Moore goes beyond being a comedy writer and is exploiting the fears people have to make a buck. Not unlike in the early 70’s Lennon did a lot of peace songs for no other reason but to gather public support, because at the time “Peace was selling.”
The older I got and the more I pay attention. The more confused I become. And isn’t that what they want?
Just remember one important thing. Whoever becomes the next president, within 30 seconds of taking office, EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BECOME THEIR FAULT!!
They’re just men, who fall short of the glory of God.
People lose jobs all the time. (I lost a few myself, due to ecology people blubbering about something or other.)
My problem with these Social Democrats who want us all to believe we need to trust them and put ALL our FAITH in them.
Remember originally the constitution of these United States only has the Government being responsible for two things. 1. Protect us from foreigner invaders. 2. Run the post office.
Since they can’t give until they first take (tax)
Oh never mind, a cool tune came on and I wanna rock!!
Just stay away from the profits of doom & well poisonor’s. And anyone who says “VOTE FOR ME, AND I’LL SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS.”
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Post by JaminJim on Jul 6, 2004 17:45:34 GMT -5
The current issue of TIME magazine says he's thinking about offering a $10,000 reward for anyone who can find a single fact that's "wrong." Here's your chance to get rich! "Moore has organized a "war room" overseen by former Clinton White House aides Chris Lehane and Mark Fabiani. He also hired the former chief of fact checking at the New Yorker magazine to comb the film for inaccuracies. "There's lots of disagreement with my analysis of these facts or my opinion based on the facts. But," he insists, "there is not a single factual error in the movie. I'm thinking of offering a $10,000 reward for anyone that can find a single fact that's wrong." Has anybody collected on O.J.'s offer yet?
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Post by Husky430 on Jul 6, 2004 17:51:22 GMT -5
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Post by soreboozer on Jul 7, 2004 12:23:55 GMT -5
Here are hundreds of lies from GWB. Daddy's money made him rich....
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Post by soreboozer on Jul 7, 2004 12:32:02 GMT -5
Uhh...there are articles, websites, books, etc. up the yin yang that prove just that. Do you actually believe that he would admit he's wrong? Look at what he said about the election, he can't even get what network said what right. I can say one thing for him, he is a master of twisting facts, and a very good shepard. The only thing I've seen out the yin yang are Republican whiners scrambling to discredit Moore's excellent documentary. Everyone else thinks the movie's great! I've looked at some of the Anti-Moore sites, and not a single one shows any FACTS he's got wrong. Moore's entitled to form an opinion based on FACTS, and he makes a very compelling case against Bush. As for the master of twisting facts, you're obviously confusing Moore with Dubya. ;D
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Post by Husky430 on Jul 7, 2004 13:36:33 GMT -5
Hey even your beloved Dems admit that he's twisting the facts. Comparing Moore to Bush is like comparing Bret Michaels to Elvis, cmon now.
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Post by Husky430 on Jul 7, 2004 15:48:27 GMT -5
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Post by soreboozer on Jul 7, 2004 16:38:35 GMT -5
Hey even your beloved Dems admit that he's twisting the facts. Comparing Moore to Bush is like comparing Bret Michaels to Elvis, cmon now. Beloved Dem's might not agree with all his conclusions, but few credible people have disputed his FACTS. I like your comparison of Bush to Elvis... One's dead and the other's brain dead!
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Post by soreboozer on Jul 7, 2004 16:43:24 GMT -5
Samples aren't weapons. If they are, then you'd better tell Bush's hand-picked 9-11 Commission, because they're saying the same thing Moore is about WMD!
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Post by Jesse on Jul 7, 2004 17:03:27 GMT -5
Daddy's money made him rich.... Teresa Heinz's money made John Kerry richer, your point?
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Post by JaminJim on Jul 7, 2004 17:20:39 GMT -5
Get the feeling this thread has run it’s course?
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Post by Jesse on Jul 7, 2004 17:25:42 GMT -5
Get the feeling this thread has run it’s course? 'bout 2 pages ago
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Post by Husky430 on Jul 7, 2004 23:23:31 GMT -5
Sure guys, take all the fun out of it...
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Post by nightrocker on Jul 7, 2004 23:27:47 GMT -5
Get the feeling this thread has run it’s course? Yes!
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Post by JaminJim on Jul 8, 2004 10:49:13 GMT -5
Bottom line is.
Every politician, celebrity in the limelight lives in a state of paralysis. Every word out of their mouth can be cut & paste into snippets. Therefore redirecting a listener to believing something was said totally different. Moore has proven no more then that he is a good cut & plaster.
And those others will listen and follow along like sheep. Can you be brain washed? Kids, they had us all pre-conditioned before our grandma’s were born, lol.
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Post by soreboozer on Jul 8, 2004 12:22:35 GMT -5
Teresa Heinz's money made John Kerry richer, your point? No matter how rich Bush is, he's still a liar.
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Post by Jesse on Jul 8, 2004 16:48:01 GMT -5
No matter how rich Bush is, he's still a liar. And Kerry isn't? Is that what you're implying? Oh that's right: It's not a lie if you believe it. ;D
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