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Post by HARD ROCK UNIVERSE on Dec 19, 2007 14:27:36 GMT -5
SAVATAGE mastermind JON OLIVA (JON OLIVA'S PAIN, TRANS-SIBERIAN ORCHESTRA) has issued the following statement:
"Hi, this is Jon Oliva, and I would like to set the record straight regarding any Savatage reunion tour rumors. After careful consideration by management, former band members and myself, I would like to release this official statement regarding Savatage:
The Trans-Siberian Orchestra is growing at an amazing rate. Our second non-Christmas record (Nightcastle) will be released later this year. Following that, TSO will immediately begin recording it's next Christmas record while also planning year-round touring and possible overseas performance.
Due to increasing demand for the TSO brand, Savatage is unable to plan any future concert appearances. TSO has become a year-round responsibility and it is impossible to shut down this massive operation in order to perform any Savatage shows.
Jon Oliva's Pain is the vehicle for the continued release and performance of my metal music. It requires the balance of my time and energy, and I am happy to be recording and touring with such talented musicians. Our third CD, Global Waning, will be released in Europe via AFM Records in mid-April 2008. Jon Oliva's Pain is as close to Savatage as you can get.
I hope this puts to rest any more speculation about the availability of Savatage in the future. Should you have any further questions please direct your emails to me at ckindercrash@hotmail.com or send a message to webmaster@jonoliva.net.
Thand, and we look forward to bringing the "Pain" to you for many years to come.
Sincerely, Jon Oliva."
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Post by Jesse on Dec 19, 2007 21:42:02 GMT -5
Not sure I "get it". While I understand and look forward to TSO releasing new material and touring year-round. I don't get how the individual members of Savatage/TSO have time for their little side projects and mini-tours (Jon Oliva's Pain, Chris Caffery solo, Jeff Plate with Metal Church, etc), but, yet, they can't get together as Savatage and do another album and short tour.  I would think they either have time for side projects (A.K.A. Savatage) or they don't. My guess is they want to put Savatage to rest (at least for now) and this is the best excuse they could come up with. For the record, this is only MY speculation and I don't exactly have an inside track on Savatage info.  |
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Post by HARD ROCK UNIVERSE on Dec 19, 2007 21:51:42 GMT -5
I agree Jesse. It's only been 6 years since the last Savatage album.  Unless they're going for a Chinese Democracy type record for making an album, you'd think that after the holidays and until September, when they start rehearsing for the next TSO tour, they could have found time since 2001 to get a new Savatage album together. It's not like they even have to be in the same country to do it, just send the files back and forth via the Internet...so So no Savatage album or Nightcastle in the past 3 years. It's not like they tour all year round...  |
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Post by Jesse on Dec 19, 2007 22:03:49 GMT -5
Y'know, what else bugs me? After all this time talking about "Nightcastle" and saying how it's pretty much done, how come "O Fortuna" is still the only "Nightcastle" song they play at their show? Wouldn't they be anxious to show us that they've done SOMETHING in the off-season this year and play us a new tune?
I think they've been playing that ONE song since 2002. You tellin' me they haven't been able to learn ONE other song from this mystery album since then?
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Post by HARD ROCK UNIVERSE on Dec 19, 2007 22:15:25 GMT -5
Y'know, what else bugs me? After all this time talking about "Nightcastle" and saying how it's pretty much done, how come "O Fortuna" is still the only "Nightcastle" song they play at their show? Wouldn't they be anxious to show us that they've done SOMETHING in the off-season this year and play us a new tune? I think they've been playing that ONE song since 2002. You tellin' me they haven't been able to learn ONE other song from this mystery album since then? Hell, even Axl plays a few from his mythical album. I know that TSO is the cash cow, and they don't want to screw that up, but I think they might be surprised at how much more a Savatage album would sell with all the exposure the members have gotten the last 6 years since the last one. |
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Post by Jesse on Dec 19, 2007 22:18:47 GMT -5
Y'know, what else bugs me? After all this time talking about "Nightcastle" and saying how it's pretty much done, how come "O Fortuna" is still the only "Nightcastle" song they play at their show? Wouldn't they be anxious to show us that they've done SOMETHING in the off-season this year and play us a new tune? I think they've been playing that ONE song since 2002. You tellin' me they haven't been able to learn ONE other song from this mystery album since then? Hell, even Axl plays a few from his mythical album. I know that TSO is the cash cow, and they don't want to screw that up, but I think they might be surprised at how much more a Savatage album would sell with all the exposure the members have gotten the last 6 years since the last one. Yeah. Also, when I saw them in 2001 (as Savatage) they packed the club they played in. Another Savatage tour and they might be able to upgrade to a Theater tour as opposed to a club tour. |
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Post by Speedy on Dec 19, 2007 22:39:03 GMT -5
Jon Olivia made basically the same comments last year.
In their defense "solo" projects are easier than band projects to get together.
With a solo project the ONLY person that HAS to be there is you. Need a guitar solo? Call anybody you want or do it yourself. You can do it all at home in your own studio. If it is 3 am on Sunday morning and you have a good idea you can put it down.
If you do a band project Joe Blow, guitarist for the band needs to be available. Everybody needs to be on the same page and have time set aside.
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Post by HARD ROCK UNIVERSE on Dec 19, 2007 22:52:24 GMT -5
Jon Oliva's Pain is a band project now, and they're working on a new album. Perhaps he doesn't have to pay this band as much as he would the other members of Savatage. |
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Post by Speedy on Dec 20, 2007 15:42:05 GMT -5
Jon Oliva's Pain is a band project now, and they're working on a new album. Perhaps he doesn't have to pay this band as much as he would the other members of Savatage. That is a good point....but what about this idea.... You join Mick Jagger's band. Who do you think is going to dictate where, when and what you record.....NOT YOU! Same for Jon....it's HIS band, they do what HE says. The Savatage guys can tell him to F*** OFF! |
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Post by HARD ROCK UNIVERSE on Dec 20, 2007 15:51:07 GMT -5
Jon Oliva's Pain is a band project now, and they're working on a new album. Perhaps he doesn't have to pay this band as much as he would the other members of Savatage. That is a good point....but what about this idea.... You join Mick Jagger's band. Who do you think is going to dictate where, when and what you record.....NOT YOU! Same for Jon....it's HIS band, they do what HE says. The Savatage guys can tell him to F*** OFF! Well, they COULD. But they wouldn't. All Jon has to do is say "Hey I want to make a Sava album" and those guys would be there in a heartbeat. Nobody would pay to see a Savatage without Jon Oliva involved in some form. Even with different vocalists, it's been Jon and Paul O'Neill calling the shots, with Middleton, Caffery and Plate jumping. If it weren't for those two, the rest of those guys wouldn't have a career, in Savatage or TSO, so even though they're more well known to Savatage fans, when Jon says "Jump" they'll say "How High" I would suspect at this point it's Paul O'Neill being absorbed with TSO that makes the songs Oliva writes 'Tage Mahal songs and not Savatage. Wouldn't take long for those other players to lay down their parts, probably as long as the other ones, I'd reckon. |
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Post by Jesse on Dec 20, 2007 21:29:34 GMT -5
I see speedy's point, but tend to agree more with Nightwatcher. Who owns the name "Savatage"? My guess would be the only guy to be involved with the group from day 1 until their last album and tour in 2001: Jon Oliva. So, yeah, Caffery, Plate, Middleton and Pitrelli could tell Oliva to F*ck Off, but Oliva ultimately has final say.....or could. Caffery went from being "touring guitarist" in Savatage to THE MAN in Savatage through years of lineup changes. Hell, he was the main lead player in the band even with Al Pitrelli on the other side of the stage! Don't tell me he wouldn't bag his solo stuff for another go-round with Savatage. Chris and Jon wrote almost all the music for "Poets And Madmen" themselves, O'Neill's input in that area was limited and he mainly was just the lyricist and producer. Upon reflection, I think perhaps it is PAUL who's too busy to do a Savatage record and nobody wants to do a Savatage record without him and take a chance of pissing off the conductor of the money train. |
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Post by duojett71 on Dec 28, 2007 13:20:06 GMT -5
What's weird is that according to TSO's website Jon Oliva is not a touring member. Also I have yet to see TSO tour year round.
The flips side is that with all the side projects and TSO, I think Savatage would be too much to handle.
I am really only interested in a new Savatage album if Oliva handles all the lead vocals.
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Unless they're going for a Chinese Democracy type record for making an album, you'd think that after the holidays and until September, when they start rehearsing for the next TSO tour, they could have found time since 2001 to get a new Savatage album together. It's not like they even have to be in the same country to do it, just send the files back and forth via the Internet...so 
