Post by spacel0rd on Feb 4, 2015 12:41:28 GMT -5
(I'm Jamie)...and It’s funny how Teresa and I becomes “friends’ at the end of it all….
The 15 Most Downloaded Songs in Rock History
Jamie 2 hours ago 0 55
I miss when popular "rock" actually rocked.
In order to find really cool rock bands one has to really dig deep and do some research. The payoff is well worth the effort, though.
Replies (31)
Captain Awesome
Captain Awesome 2 hours ago 0 1
List some please....curious if Rock is still alive in this era. The only thing I can find that's good is Slash with Myles Kennedy.
Jamie
Jamie 2 hours ago 3 2
The Sword, Truckfighters, Manchester Orchestra, Mastodon, Wo Fat, Murder By Death, Blood Ceremony, Ghost B.C., Queens of the Stone Age, Red Fang, Graveyard, Opeth, Clutch, Steven Wilson, Baroness, Bloody Hammers, Gypsyhawk, Orange Goblin are all putting out good stuff today.
And Witchcraft's Legend just might be the best hard rock album of the last decade. Well, it's close to Mastodon's Once More 'Round the Sun and Opeth's Pale Communion. And even old bands like Accept and Testament are now recording some of the best albums of their careers.
teresa
teresa 2 hours ago 4 2
So... just wondering how old y'all are. Are you aware that people have been complaining since forever that you really "have to dig" to find good music? It's due to a psychological mechanism that makes people need to feel like they're uniquely superior.
Jamie
Jamie 2 hours ago 1 12
That is so not true, Teresa (even though I AM uniquely superior...ha). There was a time when real, great, cool, unapologetic rock was thrown in our faces. Bands like Van Halen, Zeppelin, G n' R, Pearl Jam were thrown in our faces by the radio and Mtv. And these bands had real, bonafide rock stars fronting them. These rock stars were the kinda guys you wanted to watch and listen to, but not date your daughter. And it was great. Nowadays, we get what you see on this list.
I'm 45 and when I was a kid part of the reason I listened to rock was as a rebellion against grownups. Now part of the reason I listen to it is as a rebellion against younger people and their sugar-coated ears. It's so ironic.
Brian
Brian 2 hours ago 0 7
Well said, Jamie. Remember when rock had balls and did everything it could to remain separate from pop music?
teresa
teresa 2 hours ago 5 3
The psychology thing is totally true. Meanwhile, Pearl Jam, for example, continues to release amazing music. No digging required.
Jamie
Jamie 2 hours ago 0 2
And you can read what a lot of rock bands say who tour Europe. They all say the same thing...The States just aren't into rock like they used to be. There's no money to be made touring here. They go to Europe and do huge festivals or play to a packed smaller venue. Here, they play to a half-sold-out club.
And I dare you to name TWO genuine, real rock stars today who are under the age of 40. I mean...a guy like David Lee Roth or Steven Tyler. One of those two I'll give you is Jack White. And he'll be 40 in five months! Ready? Name them:
Jamie
Jamie 2 hours ago 1 0
Teresa...how many of those new Pearl Jams songs are played on the radio?? Maybe one...for about a month? Then it's forgotten about and everyone goes back to remembering them as "the band who did Ten". You're so wrong, but you won't see it...and that's fine. You're one person with her opinion.
Jamie
Jamie 1 hour ago 0 4
And the hard rock that IS thrown in our faces is all this Shinedown, Pop Evil, Nickelback #$%$-o-la. All compressed country music with turned up guitars and a bit faster tempo to make it seem like rock. It's cookie-cutter music.
Jamie
Jamie 1 hour ago 0 2
NOW who is try to seem uniquely superior with something they learned in a 9 week college course? I don't need your worthless 2 cent "enlightenment"
And a lot of that I gave you was simple fact.
teresa
teresa 1 hour ago 1 0
Dude, WHY are you listening to the radio??
teresa
teresa 1 hour ago 5 0
"Enlightenment" is a word in the English language with a regular definition. I can't help that you're interpreting it through your "pop culture" filter.
Jamie
Jamie 1 hour ago 0 0
To be honest, I don't often listen to the radio. I listen to the songs on my phone on shuffle mode. But that doesn't mean the radio is off 100% of the time. There's still a part of me who is sometimes listening to popular rock radio waiting to here that song or band to wash away what's popular now (like how Smells Like Teen Spirit washed away hair bands). I keep hoping to hear that jolt...that kick in-the#$%$ different band that knocks popular music on it's side. A game-changer. It never comes. But, damn, I give the radio a shot a day or two every month in hopes..cuz we are long over due.
I'm very happy a different band like Mastodon is selling albums and doing well on the concert circuit. That's a glimmer of hope.
And ya gotta understand: I don't WANT to always dig for music I like. I'd love for some of the bands I listed above to become big. It won't happen, but it'd be cool if it did.
teresa
teresa 1 hour ago 1 0
I guess that's where we differ. I've listened to the radio once (that I can remember) since around the time I finished undergrad (1999, btw). It was a year or so ago on a long road trip. I just did it to hear what was going on with the country stations because I had heard it was a laugh. It stopped being funny after a couple of hours so I just turned it off. I just wish people would spend their time and energy finding things to like and talking about that instead of listening to things they hate and then broadcasting all the negativity about it. I honestly have no idea who all the afore-mentioned "bad" bands are. I might have heard them before, but I just didn't pay attention or just turned something good on instead instead of fixating on the bad music. And I can totally find value in hair bands!
Captain Awesome
Captain Awesome 1 hour ago 0 1
Thanks Jamie, I'll check those bands out later on.
Jamie
Jamie 1 hour ago 0 1
Hey...I Iiked a few hair bands. As the whole era went on, the bands got a bit more watered-down and a bit more silly. But, as a whole, there were some good songs to come out of it all.
And as a person who is passionate about music, who would love to see a change, you HAVE to #$%$ about the bad stuff as much as you praise the good stuff. I wish I could ignore what I think is bad, but I'm not wired that way. And country music of today makes me sad. Real sad. Garth Brooks had some good moments, but he was pretty much the beginning of the end. If you want to hear a newer country artist who sings from his heart (and not just his bank account), listen to Sturgill Simpson. I thought his 2nd album, Metamodern Sounds In Country Music, was one of the best albums of 2014. It did crack the country top 20 album chart...and I hope he has a great future in the genre.
Greaseman
Greaseman 1 hour ago 0 0
This is why I don't listen to the radio anymore. Satelite radio is worth the $10 bucks I pay a month, and I'm usually listening to the rock stations. In fact Octane (modern hard rock channel) is the most listened to channel on satelite radio. I also love Ozzie's Boneyard and Hair Nation.
teresa
teresa 1 hour ago 0 0
Try Slaid Cleaves, Ryan Bingham, and Hayes Carll. And if you don't know about Ray Wylie Hubbard yet, just go ahead and download his entire catalog. Course, I also like Imagine Dragons and Taylor Swift, so what do I know. Jk, jk. Seriously, though, Taylor is awesome.
Captain Awesome
Captain Awesome 1 hour ago 0 0
Yeah, I call the new country songs "poptry" because they resemble pop music more than the classic country music.
Randall Flagg
Randall Flagg 1 hour ago 0 1
I have to agree that rock music just isn't popular anymore. It isn't about "psychological mechanisms"; I will be the first to admit that TV and movies are better than they ever have been. Music on the other hand is all about "beats". If you are a rocker, and like actual singers without autotune or music with actual instruments, you are out of luck.
There are a few bands worth checking out though. I see The Sword, Queens of the Stone Age, and Myles Kennedy and SLash mentioned above. All 3 are great! Don't forget to check out Them Crooked Vultures, Oysterhead and Chickenfoot. None of these are tryly "new" bands though.
patdaddy
patdaddy 50 minutes ago 0 1
Your awesome Jamie, Rock On!
Jamie
Jamie 50 minutes ago 0 1
I listened to Slaid Cleves’” Rust Belt Fields” and it’s not bad…not bad at all. Kinda reminded me of Lyle Lovett.
Then I listened to Ryan Bingham’s “The Weary Kind”. Another good song.
Both songs had a lot of folk mixed in with the country feel.
Ray Wylie Hubbard’s “Snake Farm” and #$%$, We're From Texas” are really great. I love outlaw-country.
Taylor Swift, though. Well…with her big hooks and ear-friendly production values, she’s like a big bag of sugar-filled cotton candy. The first bite or two might seem good, but after the third bite your stomach starts to hurt…and you don’t want any more for a very long time.
patdaddy
patdaddy 49 minutes ago 0 1
You're awesome Jamie, Rock On!
Andrew
Andrew 47 minutes ago 0 0
I agree.
And then there's the ones who rock until they become popular. Kings of Leon, I'm looking at you.
Jamie
Jamie 46 minutes ago 0 1
Yes, Randall. Isn't it odd that decades ago our TV shows were simple while our popular rock music was complex ? And now, our TV shows are complex and our popular rock music is simple.
Jamie
Jamie 42 minutes ago 0 1
I'm thinking Oysterhead and Them Crooked Vultures were a one-time project between the members (like Mad Season, Temple of the Dog or Blind Faith)...but they are cool albums. I never got into Chickenfoot. It just seemed like Sammy Hagar was yelling "Ooh! Yea! Uh-Huh!" with no real structure or lyrics.
teresa
teresa 38 minutes ago 0 1
OMG! I hope you listen to more Slaid, especially "Horseshoe Lounge" and "Hard to Believe." Also, you should like RWH songs like "Rabbit."
Jamie
Jamie 23 minutes ago 0 0
Rabbit is cool. Slaid reminds me of this one singer/songwriter, Colin Gawel. His song, Superior, is on youtube. You'd probably dig it.
Randall Flagg
Randall Flagg 22 minutes ago 0 1
Well, fans of those one time albums are still holding out for more! I think Them Crooked Vultures have plans for another and when Trey finishes touring with the Dead, he may revisit Oysterhead since he feels he was struggling during that time period.
I don't entirely disagree with you Jamie bout CHickenfoot. My opinion is totally biased since I loved Van Halen back in the day. I will take Sammy saying ohhh yeah oh uh huh over the "beat" driven pop that is currently being shoved down our throats on the radio. The fact that I even mentioned them just shows how little there is to choose from today (and they are not even all that recent)... Nevertheless, individually each musician in the band is talented and the vibe is a bit of a throwback.
I like some of the bands you mentioned above. They may be a bit too metalish for some rock fans though, although stoner metal and hard rock are really pretty similar. I am a huge fan of The Sword and dig Orange Goblin and Witchcraft too. I find myself going back to Black Sabbath more often than not though when I am looking to scratch that slow heavy base driven metal itch.
Jamie
Jamie 15 minutes ago 0 0
Yea. Some of the bands I listed may be a bit too "sludgy" for most tastes. Att eh same time, though, bands like The Sword, Mastodon and Witchcraft have lost a lot of that "sludge sound" in their latest albums.
I'll tell you this...it's nice to TALK about cool music for a change...even if it's over the internet,
The 15 Most Downloaded Songs in Rock History
Jamie 2 hours ago 0 55
I miss when popular "rock" actually rocked.
In order to find really cool rock bands one has to really dig deep and do some research. The payoff is well worth the effort, though.
Replies (31)
Captain Awesome
Captain Awesome 2 hours ago 0 1
List some please....curious if Rock is still alive in this era. The only thing I can find that's good is Slash with Myles Kennedy.
Jamie
Jamie 2 hours ago 3 2
The Sword, Truckfighters, Manchester Orchestra, Mastodon, Wo Fat, Murder By Death, Blood Ceremony, Ghost B.C., Queens of the Stone Age, Red Fang, Graveyard, Opeth, Clutch, Steven Wilson, Baroness, Bloody Hammers, Gypsyhawk, Orange Goblin are all putting out good stuff today.
And Witchcraft's Legend just might be the best hard rock album of the last decade. Well, it's close to Mastodon's Once More 'Round the Sun and Opeth's Pale Communion. And even old bands like Accept and Testament are now recording some of the best albums of their careers.
teresa
teresa 2 hours ago 4 2
So... just wondering how old y'all are. Are you aware that people have been complaining since forever that you really "have to dig" to find good music? It's due to a psychological mechanism that makes people need to feel like they're uniquely superior.
Jamie
Jamie 2 hours ago 1 12
That is so not true, Teresa (even though I AM uniquely superior...ha). There was a time when real, great, cool, unapologetic rock was thrown in our faces. Bands like Van Halen, Zeppelin, G n' R, Pearl Jam were thrown in our faces by the radio and Mtv. And these bands had real, bonafide rock stars fronting them. These rock stars were the kinda guys you wanted to watch and listen to, but not date your daughter. And it was great. Nowadays, we get what you see on this list.
I'm 45 and when I was a kid part of the reason I listened to rock was as a rebellion against grownups. Now part of the reason I listen to it is as a rebellion against younger people and their sugar-coated ears. It's so ironic.
Brian
Brian 2 hours ago 0 7
Well said, Jamie. Remember when rock had balls and did everything it could to remain separate from pop music?
teresa
teresa 2 hours ago 5 3
The psychology thing is totally true. Meanwhile, Pearl Jam, for example, continues to release amazing music. No digging required.
Jamie
Jamie 2 hours ago 0 2
And you can read what a lot of rock bands say who tour Europe. They all say the same thing...The States just aren't into rock like they used to be. There's no money to be made touring here. They go to Europe and do huge festivals or play to a packed smaller venue. Here, they play to a half-sold-out club.
And I dare you to name TWO genuine, real rock stars today who are under the age of 40. I mean...a guy like David Lee Roth or Steven Tyler. One of those two I'll give you is Jack White. And he'll be 40 in five months! Ready? Name them:
Jamie
Jamie 2 hours ago 1 0
Teresa...how many of those new Pearl Jams songs are played on the radio?? Maybe one...for about a month? Then it's forgotten about and everyone goes back to remembering them as "the band who did Ten". You're so wrong, but you won't see it...and that's fine. You're one person with her opinion.
Jamie
Jamie 1 hour ago 0 4
And the hard rock that IS thrown in our faces is all this Shinedown, Pop Evil, Nickelback #$%$-o-la. All compressed country music with turned up guitars and a bit faster tempo to make it seem like rock. It's cookie-cutter music.
Jamie
Jamie 1 hour ago 0 2
NOW who is try to seem uniquely superior with something they learned in a 9 week college course? I don't need your worthless 2 cent "enlightenment"
And a lot of that I gave you was simple fact.
teresa
teresa 1 hour ago 1 0
Dude, WHY are you listening to the radio??
teresa
teresa 1 hour ago 5 0
"Enlightenment" is a word in the English language with a regular definition. I can't help that you're interpreting it through your "pop culture" filter.
Jamie
Jamie 1 hour ago 0 0
To be honest, I don't often listen to the radio. I listen to the songs on my phone on shuffle mode. But that doesn't mean the radio is off 100% of the time. There's still a part of me who is sometimes listening to popular rock radio waiting to here that song or band to wash away what's popular now (like how Smells Like Teen Spirit washed away hair bands). I keep hoping to hear that jolt...that kick in-the#$%$ different band that knocks popular music on it's side. A game-changer. It never comes. But, damn, I give the radio a shot a day or two every month in hopes..cuz we are long over due.
I'm very happy a different band like Mastodon is selling albums and doing well on the concert circuit. That's a glimmer of hope.
And ya gotta understand: I don't WANT to always dig for music I like. I'd love for some of the bands I listed above to become big. It won't happen, but it'd be cool if it did.
teresa
teresa 1 hour ago 1 0
I guess that's where we differ. I've listened to the radio once (that I can remember) since around the time I finished undergrad (1999, btw). It was a year or so ago on a long road trip. I just did it to hear what was going on with the country stations because I had heard it was a laugh. It stopped being funny after a couple of hours so I just turned it off. I just wish people would spend their time and energy finding things to like and talking about that instead of listening to things they hate and then broadcasting all the negativity about it. I honestly have no idea who all the afore-mentioned "bad" bands are. I might have heard them before, but I just didn't pay attention or just turned something good on instead instead of fixating on the bad music. And I can totally find value in hair bands!
Captain Awesome
Captain Awesome 1 hour ago 0 1
Thanks Jamie, I'll check those bands out later on.
Jamie
Jamie 1 hour ago 0 1
Hey...I Iiked a few hair bands. As the whole era went on, the bands got a bit more watered-down and a bit more silly. But, as a whole, there were some good songs to come out of it all.
And as a person who is passionate about music, who would love to see a change, you HAVE to #$%$ about the bad stuff as much as you praise the good stuff. I wish I could ignore what I think is bad, but I'm not wired that way. And country music of today makes me sad. Real sad. Garth Brooks had some good moments, but he was pretty much the beginning of the end. If you want to hear a newer country artist who sings from his heart (and not just his bank account), listen to Sturgill Simpson. I thought his 2nd album, Metamodern Sounds In Country Music, was one of the best albums of 2014. It did crack the country top 20 album chart...and I hope he has a great future in the genre.
Greaseman
Greaseman 1 hour ago 0 0
This is why I don't listen to the radio anymore. Satelite radio is worth the $10 bucks I pay a month, and I'm usually listening to the rock stations. In fact Octane (modern hard rock channel) is the most listened to channel on satelite radio. I also love Ozzie's Boneyard and Hair Nation.
teresa
teresa 1 hour ago 0 0
Try Slaid Cleaves, Ryan Bingham, and Hayes Carll. And if you don't know about Ray Wylie Hubbard yet, just go ahead and download his entire catalog. Course, I also like Imagine Dragons and Taylor Swift, so what do I know. Jk, jk. Seriously, though, Taylor is awesome.
Captain Awesome
Captain Awesome 1 hour ago 0 0
Yeah, I call the new country songs "poptry" because they resemble pop music more than the classic country music.
Randall Flagg
Randall Flagg 1 hour ago 0 1
I have to agree that rock music just isn't popular anymore. It isn't about "psychological mechanisms"; I will be the first to admit that TV and movies are better than they ever have been. Music on the other hand is all about "beats". If you are a rocker, and like actual singers without autotune or music with actual instruments, you are out of luck.
There are a few bands worth checking out though. I see The Sword, Queens of the Stone Age, and Myles Kennedy and SLash mentioned above. All 3 are great! Don't forget to check out Them Crooked Vultures, Oysterhead and Chickenfoot. None of these are tryly "new" bands though.
patdaddy
patdaddy 50 minutes ago 0 1
Your awesome Jamie, Rock On!
Jamie
Jamie 50 minutes ago 0 1
I listened to Slaid Cleves’” Rust Belt Fields” and it’s not bad…not bad at all. Kinda reminded me of Lyle Lovett.
Then I listened to Ryan Bingham’s “The Weary Kind”. Another good song.
Both songs had a lot of folk mixed in with the country feel.
Ray Wylie Hubbard’s “Snake Farm” and #$%$, We're From Texas” are really great. I love outlaw-country.
Taylor Swift, though. Well…with her big hooks and ear-friendly production values, she’s like a big bag of sugar-filled cotton candy. The first bite or two might seem good, but after the third bite your stomach starts to hurt…and you don’t want any more for a very long time.
patdaddy
patdaddy 49 minutes ago 0 1
You're awesome Jamie, Rock On!
Andrew
Andrew 47 minutes ago 0 0
I agree.
And then there's the ones who rock until they become popular. Kings of Leon, I'm looking at you.
Jamie
Jamie 46 minutes ago 0 1
Yes, Randall. Isn't it odd that decades ago our TV shows were simple while our popular rock music was complex ? And now, our TV shows are complex and our popular rock music is simple.
Jamie
Jamie 42 minutes ago 0 1
I'm thinking Oysterhead and Them Crooked Vultures were a one-time project between the members (like Mad Season, Temple of the Dog or Blind Faith)...but they are cool albums. I never got into Chickenfoot. It just seemed like Sammy Hagar was yelling "Ooh! Yea! Uh-Huh!" with no real structure or lyrics.
teresa
teresa 38 minutes ago 0 1
OMG! I hope you listen to more Slaid, especially "Horseshoe Lounge" and "Hard to Believe." Also, you should like RWH songs like "Rabbit."
Jamie
Jamie 23 minutes ago 0 0
Rabbit is cool. Slaid reminds me of this one singer/songwriter, Colin Gawel. His song, Superior, is on youtube. You'd probably dig it.
Randall Flagg
Randall Flagg 22 minutes ago 0 1
Well, fans of those one time albums are still holding out for more! I think Them Crooked Vultures have plans for another and when Trey finishes touring with the Dead, he may revisit Oysterhead since he feels he was struggling during that time period.
I don't entirely disagree with you Jamie bout CHickenfoot. My opinion is totally biased since I loved Van Halen back in the day. I will take Sammy saying ohhh yeah oh uh huh over the "beat" driven pop that is currently being shoved down our throats on the radio. The fact that I even mentioned them just shows how little there is to choose from today (and they are not even all that recent)... Nevertheless, individually each musician in the band is talented and the vibe is a bit of a throwback.
I like some of the bands you mentioned above. They may be a bit too metalish for some rock fans though, although stoner metal and hard rock are really pretty similar. I am a huge fan of The Sword and dig Orange Goblin and Witchcraft too. I find myself going back to Black Sabbath more often than not though when I am looking to scratch that slow heavy base driven metal itch.
Jamie
Jamie 15 minutes ago 0 0
Yea. Some of the bands I listed may be a bit too "sludgy" for most tastes. Att eh same time, though, bands like The Sword, Mastodon and Witchcraft have lost a lot of that "sludge sound" in their latest albums.
I'll tell you this...it's nice to TALK about cool music for a change...even if it's over the internet,
