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Post by Jesse on Sept 6, 2012 7:40:51 GMT -5
I wasn't sure how to title this thread, but there is an annual Fall report to College professors telling them what to expect...or not expect, from there Freshman class. For example: This year's college Freshman were born around 1993-1994, they have no clue about rotary phones, vinyl records or George H. W. Bush. It was all before their time. I thought it'd be fun to look at music through their perspective and realize that for their whole life: -Classic Rock was Classic Rock -Southern Rock was Classic Rock -Punk Rock was Classic Rock -Hair Metal was Classic Rock -U2 was Classic Rock -Metallica Sucked -Johnny Van Zant was the lead singer of Lynyrd Skynyrd -Dave Amato was the lead guitarist for REO Speedwagon -REO Speedwagon hasn't had a hit. -There haven't been any good guitar solos in the top 40 -Van Halen has been a mess. -Billy Joel hasn't released an album of new material. Maybe not their entire lives, but I'm sure they were too young to remember when: -Ritchie Blackmore and Jon Lord were in Deep Purple -Grunge had it's heyday -Kurt Cobain was alive -Danny Joe Brown fronted Molly Hatchet -Dennis Deyoung was in Styx -Iron Maiden with only 2 guitar players -Garth Brooks and Shania Twain dominating Country Music. -Record stores -Not being able to download your favorite songs off the interenet (iTunes or otherwise). I'm sure there's more, but I'll leave that to the rest of you!  - |
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Post by Frank on Sept 6, 2012 10:44:17 GMT -5
Man I feel old, Because I remember all that  |
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Post by Equinox on Sept 6, 2012 16:58:16 GMT -5
Since they were born (or infant years) this years college freshman haven't seen...
A hit record from Collective Soul
A hit record from Guns n Roses
Anything from Damn Yankees
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Post by kim on Sept 15, 2012 12:57:01 GMT -5
Excellent thread Jesse!...Excellent! I wouldn't know where to start and if I did, it would end up in on helluva long winded rant which I'm sure nobody here wants to be a part of. That said... ...If you consider the newbies coming into the freshman year of their post secondary learning years today, we have to try and put ourselves into their collective shoes and for starters, think back on the day when it was our turn, in order to keep it all in perspective. I think that there are some differences, and I can't exactly put my finger on what those differences might be and as mentioned, I surely won't bore you with my comments. Interesting thought to ponder though...good stuff Jesse!  Thanks Kim |
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Post by Jesse on Sept 17, 2012 18:23:00 GMT -5
It also occurred to me that they don't likely remember when:
-Kiss didn't wear make up
-The guys in Kiss dressed as Ace Frehley and Peter Criss, WERE Ace Frehley and Peter Criss
-The Trans-Siberian Orchestra was Savatage
-Steve Perry fronted Journey
-Christian Rock was good (I know, it was a brief time, some of US may have missed it!)
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Post by duojett71 on Sept 17, 2012 23:58:00 GMT -5
Interesting post Jesse and for the most part you are right. You are definitely right on the time frames, but that doesn't mean these kids don't know or love the music.
The Beatles broke up about a year before I was born. They were the first band I ever got into and still love today.
Most of the bands I got into in the 70's and 80's were still recording and heard on regular radio stations. There were no classic rock stations back then. It was modern rock. Zeppelin broke up when I was 9.....but their music was still basically current. So I guess times were different back then.
I am not sure as a whole who the modern youth looks up to as the pioneers of music, but you would be surprised how many young kids I see at work(music retail) who are into Iron Maiden, The Scorpions, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath Judas Priest, etc. Hell I even hear kids playing Billy Squier riffs in the store. It always surprises me. But great music is timeless and most of these kids probably went through their parents record collection. That's what I did as a kid and luckily through my early filtering skills I bypassed The Letterman, The Kingstown Trio and discovered The Beatles, Creedence, Three Dog Night, Jim Croce, etc.
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Post by Jesse on Sept 18, 2012 9:53:34 GMT -5
Interesting post Jesse and for the most part you are right. You are definitely right on the time frames, but that doesn't mean these kids don't know or love the music. The Beatles broke up about a year before I was born. They were the first band I ever got into and still love today. Most of the bands I got into in the 70's and 80's were still recording and heard on regular radio stations. There were no classic rock stations back then. It was modern rock. Zeppelin broke up when I was 9.....but their music was still basically current. So I guess times were different back then. I am not sure as a whole who the modern youth looks up to as the pioneers of music, but you would be surprised how many young kids I see at work(music retail) who are into Iron Maiden, The Scorpions, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath Judas Priest, etc. Hell I even hear kids playing Billy Squier riffs in the store. It always surprises me. But great music is timeless and most of these kids probably went through their parents record collection. That's what I did as a kid and luckily through my early filtering skills I bypassed The Letterman, The Kingstown Trio and discovered The Beatles, Creedence, Three Dog Night, Jim Croce, etc. All good points. To make this personal here's a couple of tidbits about MY favorite artists in relation to MY timeline: -Lynyrd Skynyrd's plane crashed when I was 5, I had no idea who they were until I was around 13 or circa 1985. There was no Lynyrd Skynyrd at that time. -I got into Pink Floyd about the same time they released Momentary Lapse Of Reason. Hearing those songs on Classic Rock radio along side their old hits, I had little idea what was old and what was knew and why Roger Waters mattered. -Danny Joe Brown was replaced in Molly Hatchet by Jimmy Farrar when I was 8. My first taste of Hatchet was with Farrar singing and I had no idea why people didn't like him. -By the time I got into Classic Rock, it WAS Classic Rock. Most of my favorite artists I never got to hear on top 40 radio, nor see live in their hey day with their Classic or original line ups. Because of this, and the fact that I see plenty of young people at Classic Rock concerts or wearing Classic Rock T-shirts, there is certainly hope amoung today's College Freshman. However, given their perspective, it shouldn't surprise us with some of their musical tastes. |
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Post by snakesandladders on Oct 3, 2012 6:49:12 GMT -5
I knew a freshman who thought.....actually, he was convinced 1000000 %, that Queen never played rock and it all started for him with Radio Gaga......MY ASS:) !!!! |
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Post by Jesse on Oct 3, 2012 11:09:51 GMT -5
I knew a freshman who thought.....actually, he was convinced 1000000 %, that Queen never played rock and it all started for him with Radio Gaga......MY ASS:) !!!! Queen gets a bad rap thanks to Classic Rock radio. The Stations tend to mainly play Queen songs like "Crazy Little THing Called Love", "You're My Best Friend", "Under Pressure", "Another One Bites The Dust". One is hard pressed to hear their early Rockin' stuff on the radio anymore. |
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Post by snakesandladders on Oct 4, 2012 12:28:18 GMT -5
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Post by Jesse on Oct 5, 2012 9:17:27 GMT -5
I know that, you know that, most of the people on this board know that.....unfortunately most of the general public does not. Especially College Freshmen.  |
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Post by kim on Oct 5, 2012 14:56:21 GMT -5
Hey Snakes, Offhand, do you know of a radio station that plays some classic Queen? If you do, let me know as I've been looking for one. Thanks Kim |
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Post by snakesandladders on Oct 9, 2012 12:51:56 GMT -5
I know that, you know that, most of the people on this board know that.....unfortunately most of the general public does not. Especially College Freshmen. That's not an excuse. In the past, there was only radio/TV, now freshmen have got the Net where they can be informed PRESTO....the REAL prob is they don't wanna waste time looking for the WIMPLESS sounds themselves and are happy to be spoon-fed into listening what the media like radio wants them to listen to:) !!!  |
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Post by duojett71 on Oct 10, 2012 2:02:43 GMT -5
FM radio just plain sucks now. Classic rock stations have gotten worse and worse. Its all the same rotation, Boston's "Foreplay/Longtime", "Rock N Roll Band", "More Than A Feeling", Zeppelin's
"Rock N Roll", "Black Dog", "Whole Lotta Love", Foreigner "Hot Blooded", Etc....
That's why I switched to XM back in 2005. Have not listened to 10 minutes worth of FM radio since.
I heard the Boneyard play Queen's "Dragon Attack" a couple weeks ago. So anytime you want to hear deep cuts from your favorite hard rock band you need to go elsewhere than FM radio.
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Post by snakesandladders on Oct 10, 2012 8:44:59 GMT -5
 ;D I wouldn't put these tunes together in the same melting pot as you did up there...MY 2 cents of course:)
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Post by spankymadoo on Oct 24, 2012 15:46:05 GMT -5
;D I wouldn't put these tunes together in the same melting pot as you did up there...MY 2 cents of course:) But that is what classic rock radio is playing. They pick an artist and play 3-4 songs repeatedly until you can't stand to listen to them anymore. That is why I'm happy my car has a CD player in it. I don't have to deal with radio at all!! |
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Post by Equinox on Oct 24, 2012 18:36:56 GMT -5
;D I wouldn't put these tunes together in the same melting pot as you did up there...MY 2 cents of course:) But that is what classic rock radio is playing. They pick an artist and play 3-4 songs repeatedly until you can't stand to listen to them anymore. That is why I'm happy my car has a CD player in it. I don't have to deal with radio at all!! That's why I love the independent classic rock station here in Maine, WBLM. When they do 2 for Tuesday, they always mix a hit with a deep cut you may never hear. They also take a 5 weeks or so each year to do their A to Z. Not only do they do deep tracks, they encourage texts, e-mails, and tweets with requests, and honor just about all of them. Awesome stuff. They also have mini concerts each evening featuring live recordings from local concerts in the 70's and 80's. Back in the late 70's and early 80's they used to record some concerts in Portland or in Lewiston and play them later that night, and they still have many in their archives. It's the nuts for me when they pull out a mini-concert that I was actually at! |
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Post by Frank on Oct 25, 2012 11:42:04 GMT -5
But that is what classic rock radio is playing. They pick an artist and play 3-4 songs repeatedly until you can't stand to listen to them anymore. That is why I'm happy my car has a CD player in it. I don't have to deal with radio at all!! That's why I love the independent classic rock station here in Maine, WBLM. When they do 2 for Tuesday, they always mix a hit with a deep cut you may never hear. They also take a 5 weeks or so each year to do their A to Z. Not only do they do deep tracks, they encourage texts, e-mails, and tweets with requests, and honor just about all of them. Awesome stuff. They also have mini concerts each evening featuring live recordings from local concerts in the 70's and 80's. Back in the late 70's and early 80's they used to record some concerts in Portland or in Lewiston and play them later that night, and they still have many in their archives. It's the nuts for me when they pull out a mini-concert that I was actually at! Sounds like a great station to me. I hate listening to Rock radio anymore. Same thing over & over. |
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