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Post by bluecheer on Nov 23, 2010 17:14:33 GMT -5
Came out today as a new band?
Same sound, same group of musicians. Who would not be popular today if they were new and trying to make it?
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Post by Jesse on Nov 24, 2010 7:34:13 GMT -5
None of them. they're not "heavy" enough. Plus, most of them waste too much time on guitar solos....how passe. Oh, and none of them sound enough like Nickelback.
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Post by spacel0rd on Nov 24, 2010 9:14:58 GMT -5
Jethro Tull
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Post by blackers45 on Nov 24, 2010 14:33:50 GMT -5
Yes what Jesse said
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Post by bluecheer on Nov 24, 2010 15:42:27 GMT -5
I will comment on my own thread.
Alot of the bands that have made it still would make it if they came out as a brand new band today because of the fact they are just that musically talented. They would have loyal followings and a good fan base. Would they be as popular as they were when they came out in the 60's, 70's and 80's? Maybe not, but they would still make a living at what they do.
For example, Metallica. That band would be huge if no one had ever heard of them before and they came out today as a new band. Another band that comes to mind is Creedence Clearwater Revival. With country/Americana music so popular today , I think CCR would have exploded onto the music scene if they were a new young band in 2010.
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Post by Speedy on Nov 24, 2010 17:06:41 GMT -5
It depends if you are denying the fact that the reason so many of them were great is that they were ground breaking.
For example WOULD Sabbath be as popular had all the bands they influenced came before them?? No way to know. WAR PIGS coming out AFTER enter Sandman would sound pretty thin if we are using the recorded versions as the example.
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Post by Jesse on Nov 25, 2010 10:22:04 GMT -5
It depends if you are denying the fact that the reason so many of them were great is that they were ground breaking. For example WOULD Sabbath be as popular had all the bands they influenced came before them?? No way to know. WAR PIGS coming out AFTER enter Sandman would sound pretty thin if we are using the recorded versions as the example. True. In today's music world, how tame is Alice Cooper compared to, say, Marilyn Manson? Also we need to realize that artists were given a few albums to develope their sound and following. Today, if you're not a hit from the get-go, you're out. In today's climate bands like Fleetwood Mac, Journey, Kansas, Styx, REO Speedwagon, even Kiss would not have made it because they all took a few albums to gel and to find their audience.
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Post by bluecheer on Nov 25, 2010 15:19:00 GMT -5
But who says that these bands would have not created hits if the pressure was put on them from the get go? Instead of knowing they had 3-4 year contracts signed before they released their first album?
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Post by CravenMoorehead on Nov 28, 2010 0:24:32 GMT -5
none of them because they're not justin bieber and don't use autotune. when they didn't make money for the record labels they'd be dropped in a year. and when they weren't making money they'd break up just like so many bands do these days.
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Post by Jesse on Nov 28, 2010 9:24:50 GMT -5
But who says that these bands would have not created hits if the pressure was put on them from the get go? Instead of knowing they had 3-4 year contracts signed before they released their first album? It's not all about writing hit songs, it's also about getting them played. Kiss' breakout album was "Alive" which featured songs that were all previously released. Styx's "Lady" was release a good 2 years before people took notice and radio began playing it. In today's world, both those bands would be dropped from their label before anyone recognized the great songs they had already written. I mean, come on, you always put the best stuff you have on any given album. I think if you'd interview anyone from the bands I mentioned, they'd tell you that the early albums were made up of the best material they had at that time.
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Post by snakesandladders on Nov 29, 2010 11:17:52 GMT -5
All of the Journey, Camel, Foreigner, Chicago - oriented bands:)
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Post by spacel0rd on Nov 29, 2010 11:21:41 GMT -5
All of the Journey, Camel, Foreigner, Chicago - oriented bands:) Journey would still be able to sell music, if they were in their prime now. That's why, to this day, their greatest hits will not leave Billboard's Top 200 list.
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Post by snakesandladders on Nov 29, 2010 11:31:25 GMT -5
I thought we were talking about good music and NOT strictly sales figures:)
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