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Post by rtbuck on Oct 25, 2010 5:55:36 GMT -5
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Post by Frank on Oct 25, 2010 10:01:15 GMT -5
I Want You To Want Me - Cheap Trick the original studio version that was recorded for their first album that appears on the box set Sex, America Cheap Trick is close to the live version. The In Color version.....please Tom Werman should be shot for that.
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Post by duojett71 on Oct 25, 2010 12:29:15 GMT -5
Thin Lizzy-Massacre
Thin Lizzy-Rosalie
Thin Lizzy-Still In Love With You
Iron Maiden-Remember Tomorrow(Maiden Japan version)
Iron Maiden-Running Free(Maiden Japan version)
I would agree about Cheap Trick as stated by Frank. I think most of the live versions from 'At Budokan' are better than the studio versions....although I still love the album versions to.
Another Cheap Trick song I prefered the live version of is "Big Eyes"
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Post by spankymadoo on Oct 25, 2010 16:40:02 GMT -5
Pretty much ALL of KISS Alive... Rock and Roll All Nite, and Let Me Go, Rock N Roll especially.
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Post by Trexx on Oct 25, 2010 17:02:39 GMT -5
Blue Oyster Cult's "Godzilla" is better on their live release than the studio version.
-UFO- "Love To Love"... is much more dynamic on Strangers in the Night, live album.
...also agree with Frank on Cheap Trick.
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Post by DrJJones on Oct 26, 2010 17:29:28 GMT -5
Pretty much ALL of KISS Alive... Rock and Roll All Nite, and Let Me Go, Rock N Roll especially. But Kiss Alive is a studio album with bits of crowd mixed in. Crowd from a Rush show in fact. According to Paul Stanley anyway. |
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Post by Jesse on Oct 26, 2010 17:41:18 GMT -5
Almost any song you can name I prefer the live version.
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Post by Frank on Oct 26, 2010 17:44:30 GMT -5
Almost any song you can name I prefer the live version. Live is where it's at. |
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Post by FunkyCanuck on Oct 26, 2010 21:37:56 GMT -5
I Want You To Want Me - Cheap Trick the original studio version that was recorded for their first album that appears on the box set Sex, America Cheap Trick is close to the live version. The In Color version.....please Tom Werman should be shot for that. Amen, Frank. |
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Post by ProgRocks on Oct 27, 2010 6:24:44 GMT -5
Golden Country - REO Speedwagon
Mark
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Post by spacel0rd on Oct 27, 2010 6:58:23 GMT -5
Travelin Man/ Beautiful Loser- Bob Seger & the Silver Bullet Band
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Post by Speedy on Oct 27, 2010 12:16:03 GMT -5
But Kiss Alive is a studio album with bits of crowd mixed in. Crowd from a Rush show in fact. According to Paul Stanley anyway. Highly doubtful...RUSH was on tour opening FOR KISS when ALIVE! was recorded and I have never read anything by Stanley stating that "RUSH" was used for crowd noise. According to Eddie Kramer crowd noise from the Rose Bowl was used to "enhance" the crowd noise. The "fakeness" of KISS ALIVE! is highly exagerated. You can listen to many of the source recordings on YouTube. VOCALS are repaired here and there BUT the music is basically untouched. KISS ALIVE!II and III have many more "false alive" moments. Tomorrow and Tonight and Hard Luck Womand are sound check tunes with crowd noise added. In fact ALIVE! II widely heralded as being done in LA is actually mostly from Japan. The Japanese crowd is easily identified. Here's some tunes from ALIVE! before "fixing" . KISStards like me can easily recognize these as the versions that appeared on ALIVE!. Fixes that are readily apparent are remixing and Vocal dropouts. Crowd noise IS enhanced...however crowd noise on live albums IS usually enhanced...otherwise their is very little because of the directional tendencies of mics used in live situations. |
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Post by DrJJones on Oct 27, 2010 16:45:35 GMT -5
But Kiss Alive is a studio album with bits of crowd mixed in. Crowd from a Rush show in fact. According to Paul Stanley anyway. Highly doubtful...RUSH was on tour opening FOR KISS when ALIVE! was recorded and I have never read anything by Stanley stating that "RUSH" was used for crowd noise. According to Eddie Kramer crowd noise from the Rose Bowl was used to "enhance" the crowd noise. The "fakeness" of KISS ALIVE! is highly exagerated. You can listen to many of the source recordings on YouTube. VOCALS are repaired here and there BUT the music is basically untouched. KISS ALIVE!II and III have many more "false alive" moments. Tomorrow and Tonight and Hard Luck Womand are sound check tunes with crowd noise added. In fact ALIVE! II widely heralded as being done in LA is actually mostly from Japan. The Japanese crowd is easily identified. Here's some tunes from ALIVE! before "fixing" . KISStards like me can easily recognize these as the versions that appeared on ALIVE!. Fixes that are readily apparent are remixing and Vocal dropouts. Crowd noise IS enhanced...however crowd noise on live albums IS usually enhanced...otherwise their is very little because of the directional tendencies of mics used in live situations. Stanley made the comment on a UK TV show about nine years ago. He stated, "Kiss Alive was a studio album with crowd noise from Rush's audience". He could have meant it tongue in cheek if as you say Rush was touring with them at the time but he never made any indication he was joking. He said something similar in Classic Rock Magazine too. Eddie Kramer has also said that the only original live recording on the album is Ace Frehley's guitar! Also on the VH1 story on Kiss the band members make it known the album was severely doctored in the studio. |
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Post by Trexx on Oct 27, 2010 19:10:36 GMT -5
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Post by Speedy on Oct 28, 2010 0:11:29 GMT -5
Eddie Kramer has also said that the only original live recording on the album is Ace Frehley's guitar! Also on the VH1 story on Kiss the band members make it known the album was severely doctored in the studio. All those involved like to hear themselves talk. They don't keep their stories straight from one day to another. They also don't give a shit...Stanley doesn't even know what tracks are on what album. It's alwyas been obvious that the fandom cares WAY MORE than KISS ever did. Kramer has said that the only thing original was drums and ACE's guitar. He changes his story to make whoever is listening happy...like our elected officials. ;D HOWEVER...by listening to those recordings you can hear that little was done. Hell, KISS would say anything to get a blurb of free press. All of them are full of shit |
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Post by Ricky on Oct 28, 2010 15:13:15 GMT -5
Smoke on the Water~Deep Purple
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Post by Frank on Oct 28, 2010 20:02:21 GMT -5
All I know is Kiss Alive! is a KICK ASS album. if it's been fixed or not I could give a shit less. I've listened to the album hundreds of times in my life & these versions are my favorite versions of the early Kiss classics. They truely influenced me musically & thats all i care about. Sure there are live albums that get "doctored" I just listen & rock out. If their fixed..... I DONT CARE! It's all about the vibe to me.
Thank you.... drive thru ;D
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Post by Trexx on Oct 29, 2010 14:16:20 GMT -5
All I know is Kiss Alive! is a KICK ASS album. if it's been fixed or not I could give a shit less. I've listened to the album hundreds of times in my life & these versions are my favorite versions of the early Kiss classics. They truely influenced me musically & thats all i care about. Sure there are live albums that get "doctored" I just listen & rock out. If their fixed..... I DONT CARE! It's all about the vibe to me. Thank you.... drive thru ;D Damn! Told us.  |
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Post by kim on Oct 30, 2010 13:10:09 GMT -5
"KISStards"... Speedy, you fan you!... For the live version, I'll go with Skynyrds "Free Bird" and Tull's "Locomotive Breath" Thanks Kim |
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Post by Jesse on Nov 6, 2010 13:33:54 GMT -5
All I know is Kiss Alive! is a KICK ASS album. if it's been fixed or not I could give a shit less. I've listened to the album hundreds of times in my life & these versions are my favorite versions of the early Kiss classics. They truely influenced me musically & thats all i care about. Sure there are live albums that get "doctored" I just listen & rock out. If their fixed..... I DONT CARE! It's all about the vibe to me. Thank you.... drive thru ;D I hear ya. Molly Hatchet's "Double-Trouble Live" is another prime example. One of my favorite listening pleasures of all time, but even MH keyboardist John Galvin admits that is was so doctored up it is his least favorite album. 2 songs from the original album, "Walk With You" and "Walk On The Side Of The Angels", Dave Hlubek has wondered aloud in interviews, "I don't know where the hell they came from, I sure didn't play a note on 'em". Galvin claims guitar parts were added and cleaned up here and there. There is clearly a third guitar (They only had 2 guitar players by 1985) added for their "live" version of "Freebird" (I flat out asked Galvin about this song and he assured me that it was indeed live otherwise). Still, it is one of my favorite live albums, even if a bunch of stuff was "fixed" and crowd noise from Ted Nugent's "Double Live Gonzo" was added in (another admission I heard directly from Galvin). |
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