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Post by duojett71 on Jan 30, 2009 1:17:35 GMT -5
I have wondered my whole life what people see in Springsteen. His music bores the piss out of me. He is in my opinion very overrated and sensationalized. He is always heralded as a true American artist and that may be, but his music never spoke to me. I don't really know what a "....last chance power drive.." is. Not sure I really want to. I like alot of the rest of you don get it either. I would much rather listen to Mellancamp or old Tom Petty. Even their backing bands were better....yes the E Street band is overrated to. Weinberg is better on Conan.
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Post by rtbuck on Jan 30, 2009 9:04:12 GMT -5
I feel as long as this post made its rounds & just about everyone has given their opinion on the Boss,I'll give mine but first off Kim & Onering,sorry about the but I have praised the Boss in the past on this board whether it was his Seeger tribute album or my praises on his "Darkness...."album or his talents in general & I was pissed seeing this thread. Anyway,here's a snippet from a review I wrote in 2005: "With songs dealing with: Getting wasted in the heat, rat traps filled with soul crusaders, flashing guitars like switchblades, midnight gangs, suicide machines, death traps, suicide traps, and wrapping your legs around one’s velvet rims, one would think Judas Priest was coming out with a new album. But actually this album was released 30 years ago not by Priest, but by none other than “The Boss,” Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band. What we have here is an awesome 3 disc set of the classic 'Born to Run' album. Besides which, the set contains 2 DVD’s, one of the making of 'Born To Run' (which also has a short concert from ’73), the other is a phenomenal show from the Hammersmith Odeon 11/18/75." (That was the snippet & now back to reality!) Back in the 70's early 80's I didn't like Springsteen at all.I hated his sound with the horns,Keyboards,& Vocals. Back then all I basically liked was Hard Rock/Metal(although by 1980 I was slowly discovering New Wave/Punk & I was always a big Stones fan). I had a friend at work who was a Springsteen freak & he'd mock Kiss & I'd mock Springsteen.This friend started to really be influenced by my tastes in music & one day he asked me about why I hated Springsteen so I told him my reasons & he said "You love the Stones & David Johansen but you can't like Springsteen?". That kind of hit home & by "Born in the USA" I was a fan.My first album I bought was "Darkness..." & it's still my favorite Boss album. I seen Springsteen live in '85 & the show was great. What sets a Springsteen show different than the rest for me is the overall atmosphere.People aren't only sitting or standing raising their fist,they're dancing in their seats & in the aisles having the time of their lives. I've been to a few concerts by the Beach Boys & it's the same effect.The 2 times I seen George Thorogood live was also the same. Now,I wasn't saying that Bruce concerts rule all, because I'd rather see Kiss or Alice Cooper or Iron Maiden live but going to a Springsteen show is a different kind of concert experience. In 1988 they had a live broadcast on the radio that I taped & was glad I did because the 2nd or third song in they played a rocking version of John Lee Hooker's "Boom Boom Boom" which even blew me more away than seeing the Boss live.By the last verse Bruce was screaming the lyrics,the guitars were ripping & the band kind of blended in a rythym reminiscent of the old Booker T & the Mg's instrumental hit "Green Onions" which happens to be one of my all-time favorite instrumentals. Well, thats my thoughts on Springsteen.For the record it took me a while to get into Billy Joel too.Petty,I always liked & John Menstrual Cramps was okay too(I really like the song Human Wheels)
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Post by kim on Jan 30, 2009 13:30:08 GMT -5
I feel as long as this post made its rounds & just about everyone has given their opinion on the Boss,I'll give mine but first off Kim & Onering,sorry about the but I have praised the Boss in the past on this board whether it was his Seeger tribute album or my praises on his "Darkness...."album or his talents in general & I was pissed seeing this thread. Anyway,here's a snippet from a review I wrote in 2005: "With songs dealing with: Getting wasted in the heat, rat traps filled with soul crusaders, flashing guitars like switchblades, midnight gangs, suicide machines, death traps, suicide traps, and wrapping your legs around one’s velvet rims, one would think Judas Priest was coming out with a new album. But actually this album was released 30 years ago not by Priest, but by none other than “The Boss,” Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band. What we have here is an awesome 3 disc set of the classic 'Born to Run' album. Besides which, the set contains 2 DVD’s, one of the making of 'Born To Run' (which also has a short concert from ’73), the other is a phenomenal show from the Hammersmith Odeon 11/18/75." (That was the snippet & now back to reality!) Back in the 70's early 80's I didn't like Springsteen at all.I hated his sound with the horns,Keyboards,& Vocals. Back then all I basically liked was Hard Rock/Metal(although by 1980 I was slowly discovering New Wave/Punk & I was always a big Stones fan). I had a friend at work who was a Springsteen freak & he'd mock Kiss & I'd mock Springsteen.This friend started to really be influenced by my tastes in music & one day he asked me about why I hated Springsteen so I told him my reasons & he said "You love the Stones & David Johansen but you can't like Springsteen?". That kind of hit home & by "Born in the USA" I was a fan.My first album I bought was "Darkness..." & it's still my favorite Boss album. I seen Springsteen live in '85 & the show was great. What sets a Springsteen show different than the rest for me is the overall atmosphere.People aren't only sitting or standing raising their fist,they're dancing in their seats & in the aisles having the time of their lives. I've been to a few concerts by the Beach Boys & it's the same effect.The 2 times I seen George Thorogood live was also the same. Now,I wasn't saying that Bruce concerts rule all, because I'd rather see Kiss or Alice Cooper or Iron Maiden live but going to a Springsteen show is a different kind of concert experience. In 1988 they had a live broadcast on the radio that I taped & was glad I did because the 2nd or third song in they played a rocking version of John Lee Hooker's "Boom Boom Boom" which even blew me more away than seeing the Boss live.By the last verse Bruce was screaming the lyrics,the guitars were ripping & the band kind of blended in a rythym reminiscent of the old Booker T & the Mg's instrumental hit "Green Onions" which happens to be one of my all-time favorite instrumentals. Well, thats my thoughts on Springsteen.For the record it took me a while to get into Billy Joel too.Petty,I always liked & John Menstrual Cramps was okay too(I really like the song Human Wheels) Great post Bucky!!! I agree. Those lyrics from 30 years ago sound pretty spooky...brrrr! Almost as scary as some of the "mainstream" casual rap music of the day that gets nominated for "album of the year" by some recording faction or another these days actualy promoting and making it "just another day in the life of the average Joe in society" life as we know it. Not sure if there is any message of hope or remorse in the crap these days, but with Springsteen, most of the time, even his "down and out" stlye of music still has a tendancy to lift a listener up simply because of the music. More so with his live performances as well I would suspect...in a slightly more positive fashion? Bruce & Co seem to have, and continue to enjoy themselves creating and performing the music that they are known for and although it's not to everyones liking, it isn't really a depressing, hopeless or ultimately "hate" genre style of music, even when Bruce gets rather melancholy... Speaking of Melancholy, that John Cougar guy is pretty damned good too...(cool segue eh?)...hahaha. To me, Mellencamp is a Springsteen, country cousin, to a degree. Not one on the streets of a large city, but one that sings of the hard times for those living a simpler, somewhat less complicated existance in the midwest, as opposed the daily strife being tolerated by the average inner city citizen?...yet doing so in living with the same levels of frustration and angst that any given individual would feel inside. When Petty is lumped in to the mix, I personaly liken him to a Dylan stlye performer. If the 4 of them were on stage and I had to make 2 teams, I would have to put Dylan & Petty in one camp and Springsteen and Mellencamp in the other...just my opinion. Now Bucky, I have something that will bring this thread back full circle. You mention Mellencamp's "Human Wheels"...also one of my favourites. I also picked up a cd from CD Baby called "A Cup Of Joe" by Mike Garner. Last track on the album is called "Round Round Round". This track is an absolute duplicate of "Human Wheels" yet no credit is given to Mellencamp. No mention of rights or otherwise??? Same beat and a yet a different set of lyrics?...and the tempo is slowed a few iota's as well. I find it kind of interesting. Check it out if you can. *Spell check wasn't working...I apologize in advance for any "Doh's" regarding the "spellun" here. Thanks Kim
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Post by onering on Jan 30, 2009 22:40:16 GMT -5
I feel as long as this post made its rounds & just about everyone has given their opinion on the Boss,I'll give mine but first off Kim & Onering,sorry about the but I have praised the Boss in the past on this board whether it was his Seeger tribute album or my praises on his "Darkness...."album or his talents in general & I was pissed seeing this thread. Anyway,here's a snippet from a review I wrote in 2005: "With songs dealing with: Getting wasted in the heat, rat traps filled with soul crusaders, flashing guitars like switchblades, midnight gangs, suicide machines, death traps, suicide traps, and wrapping your legs around one’s velvet rims, one would think Judas Priest was coming out with a new album. But actually this album was released 30 years ago not by Priest, but by none other than “The Boss,” Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band. What we have here is an awesome 3 disc set of the classic 'Born to Run' album. Besides which, the set contains 2 DVD’s, one of the making of 'Born To Run' (which also has a short concert from ’73), the other is a phenomenal show from the Hammersmith Odeon 11/18/75." (That was the snippet & now back to reality!) Back in the 70's early 80's I didn't like Springsteen at all.I hated his sound with the horns,Keyboards,& Vocals. Back then all I basically liked was Hard Rock/Metal(although by 1980 I was slowly discovering New Wave/Punk & I was always a big Stones fan). I had a friend at work who was a Springsteen freak & he'd mock Kiss & I'd mock Springsteen.This friend started to really be influenced by my tastes in music & one day he asked me about why I hated Springsteen so I told him my reasons & he said "You love the Stones & David Johansen but you can't like Springsteen?". That kind of hit home & by "Born in the USA" I was a fan.My first album I bought was "Darkness..." & it's still my favorite Boss album. I seen Springsteen live in '85 & the show was great. What sets a Springsteen show different than the rest for me is the overall atmosphere.People aren't only sitting or standing raising their fist,they're dancing in their seats & in the aisles having the time of their lives. I've been to a few concerts by the Beach Boys & it's the same effect.The 2 times I seen George Thorogood live was also the same. Now,I wasn't saying that Bruce concerts rule all, because I'd rather see Kiss or Alice Cooper or Iron Maiden live but going to a Springsteen show is a different kind of concert experience. In 1988 they had a live broadcast on the radio that I taped & was glad I did because the 2nd or third song in they played a rocking version of John Lee Hooker's "Boom Boom Boom" which even blew me more away than seeing the Boss live.By the last verse Bruce was screaming the lyrics,the guitars were ripping & the band kind of blended in a rythym reminiscent of the old Booker T & the Mg's instrumental hit "Green Onions" which happens to be one of my all-time favorite instrumentals. Well, thats my thoughts on Springsteen.For the record it took me a while to get into Billy Joel too.Petty,I always liked & John Menstrual Cramps was okay too(I really like the song Human Wheels) Bucky, nice post. Please accept my apologies if you thought I was referring to you in my post, again I was not referring to anyone in particular. I agree with you about Darkness on the Edge of Town. It is my absolute favorite Springsteen album, which also makes it my favorite album of all time by anyone. I eagerly await the deluxe box set (ala Born to Run) that is being worked on as we speak. It will be worth it for the concert footage from the Darkness tour alone. In my opinion Bruce and the E Street Band never matched the intensity and power they played with on that tour. Bruce in particular has never played guitar like that since. Looking forward to the Super Bowl, it's a great day for me, Steelers + Springsteen = Heaven.
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