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Post by Trexx on Jul 16, 2013 21:42:39 GMT -5
Suicide#1: Black Sabbath chooses poorly for their opening act: 1978-79. Van Halen rips them a new one on all the major continents and cities in front of God and everybody. The aftermath: Singer is fired, band is in shambles for 4 solid years, Van Halen's reputation is anchored in bedrock forever.
Suicide#2 Boston... 14 years for a follow up album was too long. They were practically forgotten and the second album was barely just 'OK'.
Suicide#3 Cat Stevens becomes a Muslim. Prolific, catchy tunes galore up to that point.
Suicide#4 Bob Segar sells Fords. He was fading anyways, but licensing his songs to Ford advertising seemed to put him in lockdown, whilst artists like John Mellencamp rocketed past him.
Suicide#5 UFO's 1974-75 ascent is destroyed by Michael Schenker. Schenker singlehandedly derails debut U.S. tour. He disappeared. Last seen somewhere in Texas. Shows up years later. UFO never does hit their expected heights, but somehow band mates forgive him in the early part of the 21st century.
Suicide#6 Elvis Costello goes country. I only like one or two songs off the radio, but I heard he went country... Zero news or airplay... Probably a good thing.
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Post by spacel0rd on Jul 17, 2013 8:48:15 GMT -5
Suicide#2 Boston... 14 years for a follow up album was too long. They were practically forgotten and the second album was barely just 'OK'. Don't Look Back (1978) came out two years after their first one (1976). And Third Stage (1986) came out 8 years after that. Third Stage was a pretty big hit. I remember they sold out two shows in Pittsburgh that tour. By the time the subpar album, Walk On, came out in 1994, rock music had changed and people no longer cared. Then there's the "forgotten"Corporate America in 2002. The eight year gaps between albums didn't help matters, but it wasn't 14 years.
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Post by Frank on Jul 17, 2013 10:28:32 GMT -5
Suicide#2 Boston... 14 years for a follow up album was too long. They were practically forgotten and the second album was barely just 'OK'. Don't Look Back (1978) came out two years after their first one (1976). And Third Stage (1986) came out 8 years after that. Third Stage was a pretty big hit. I remember they sold out two shows in Pittsburgh that tour. By the time the subpar album, Walk On, came out in 1994, rock music had changed and people no longer cared. Then there's the "forgotten"Corporate America in 2002. The eight year gaps between albums didn't help matters, but it wasn't 14 years. All that time between albums & they didn't take the time to work on their stage show. I saw them in 87 & it's still the second worse show I ever saw.
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Post by Jesse on Jul 17, 2013 20:16:01 GMT -5
I always felt the outcome this video had on Billy Squier’s career was overrated. It seemed just as goofy and “gay” as any other video that came out during that time. I have a feeling his time would have come to an end if this video was made, or not. Honestly, I put it #1 thinking it would quiet the masses. I never knew nothing about Billy Squier during his heyday, never had MTV until about 8 years ago and never saw the video in question until just a few years ago. That said, when I first started going on Rock'n Roll discussion forums, when Squier's name came up, somebody usually mentioned this video killing his career. Looking at the charts and record sales, he certainly DID go downhill after this song. However, as I alluded to in my introductory post, sometimes it is hard to distinguish a career suicide from an artist's popularity simply running its course. The case could be made in several of my choices, that said artists just ran their course and were due for a decline in popularity no matter what as music trends shifted. I understand your argument, but I'm sticking with mine.
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Post by Jesse on Jul 17, 2013 20:23:28 GMT -5
Don't Look Back (1978) came out two years after their first one (1976). And Third Stage (1986) came out 8 years after that. Third Stage was a pretty big hit. I remember they sold out two shows in Pittsburgh that tour. By the time the subpar album, Walk On, came out in 1994, rock music had changed and people no longer cared. Then there's the "forgotten"Corporate America in 2002. The eight year gaps between albums didn't help matters, but it wasn't 14 years. All that time between albums & they didn't take the time to work on their stage show. I saw them in 87 & it's still the second worse show I ever saw. I like Trexx's choices, but I have to disagree with Boston. When it finally came out, DESPITE all the changes in musical trends, "Third Stage" was a hit album. I believe it was #1 and sold several million copies. 8 years later "Walk On" hit #4, went platinum and had a few charting singles despite the Grunge era kicking into high gear. The rest of your list Trexx is really good, I wish I thought of some of them. Oh, and Frank, I saw Boston in 1997 and they were pretty friggin' amazing!
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Post by spacel0rd on Jul 18, 2013 10:54:52 GMT -5
I saw Boston in 1987 and it still remains one of my least favorite shows I've seen. I don't remember one song from Walk On that was played on the radio. But after Googling it I see it had the one single, I Need Your Love. It peeked at number 51 on the Billboard Hot 100.
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Post by Frank on Jul 18, 2013 11:14:30 GMT -5
I saw Boston in 1987 and it still remains one of my least favorite shows I've seen. I don't remember one song from Walk On that was played on the radio. But after Googling it I see it had the one single, I Need Your Love. It peeked at number 51 on the Billboard Hot 100. To me they were so boring that I might as well put the album cover up & just stared at that for 2 hours.
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Post by Trexx on Jul 18, 2013 12:13:48 GMT -5
Oops. senior citizen memory on Boston. uh oh
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Post by Jesse on Jul 19, 2013 15:10:11 GMT -5
I saw Boston in 1987 and it still remains one of my least favorite shows I've seen. I don't remember one song from Walk On that was played on the radio. But after Googling it I see it had the one single, I Need Your Love. It peeked at number 51 on the Billboard Hot 100. "I need Your Love" did hit #51 on the Pop Charts, but peaked at #4 on the mainstream Rock tracks charts. The song "Walk On" hit #14 on that chart as well. And I was wrong, the "Walk On" album topped out at #7, not #4 as I previously stated, but it did go platinum.
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Post by Jesse on Jul 19, 2013 15:11:29 GMT -5
Oops. senior citizen memory on Boston. uh oh No biggie, the rest of your list was awesome! I probably should've had Cat Stevens on my list.
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Post by duojett71 on Jul 26, 2013 19:39:40 GMT -5
5-Raul Malo Flips Out. Who's Raul Malo? He is the lead singer of Country Band The Mavericks. The Mavericks slid under the radar through the early 1990's. They had several semi-hit singles on the Country charts, but were building up a solid fan base through constant touring. By 1994, they started to get some recognition winning awards for Top Vocal Group from ACM, CMA and the Grammys. 1996 they were on top of the world with a huge breakthrough hit "All You Ever Do Is Bring Me Down". At a concert in Philadelphia, lead singer Raul Malo, upset over (apparently) bad sound, completely flipped out on stage after about 2 songs. Hurling obscenities at the sound crew, roadies, fans and band mates, he then walked off stage never to return. Of course, the local Country radio station who was hosting the concert immediately stopped playing Mavericks music and most Country stations throughout the nation followed suit. The Mavericks would record 2 more albums before breaking up in 2003. While 1998's "Trampoline" charted well, it failed to go Gold and "All You Ever Do Is Bring Me Down" would be their last entry into the Country top 40. I know Nick Kane the guitarist who was in The Mavericks during their popular era. I asked him what happened to The Mavericks and he had nothing but bad things to say about Raul Malo. Apparently Malo fucked over the entire band. I was told that Malo is one of the biggest assholes in the industry….or formerly in the industry. From what I was told Malo can't even buy a gig. No one wants anything to do with him.
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Post by Jesse on Jul 28, 2013 19:11:07 GMT -5
5-Raul Malo Flips Out. Who's Raul Malo? He is the lead singer of Country Band The Mavericks. The Mavericks slid under the radar through the early 1990's. They had several semi-hit singles on the Country charts, but were building up a solid fan base through constant touring. By 1994, they started to get some recognition winning awards for Top Vocal Group from ACM, CMA and the Grammys. 1996 they were on top of the world with a huge breakthrough hit "All You Ever Do Is Bring Me Down". At a concert in Philadelphia, lead singer Raul Malo, upset over (apparently) bad sound, completely flipped out on stage after about 2 songs. Hurling obscenities at the sound crew, roadies, fans and band mates, he then walked off stage never to return. Of course, the local Country radio station who was hosting the concert immediately stopped playing Mavericks music and most Country stations throughout the nation followed suit. The Mavericks would record 2 more albums before breaking up in 2003. While 1998's "Trampoline" charted well, it failed to go Gold and "All You Ever Do Is Bring Me Down" would be their last entry into the Country top 40. I know Nick Kane the guitarist who was in The Mavericks during their popular era. I asked him what happened to The Mavericks and he had nothing but bad things to say about Raul Malo. Apparently Malo fucked over the entire band. I was told that Malo is one of the biggest assholes in the industry….or formerly in the industry. From what I was told Malo can't even buy a gig. No one wants anything to do with him. Interesting story! I believe Raul Malo has reformed the Mavericks, but I don't know who else is involved. They were seriously on their way to super stardom (at least within Country Music) when this incident occurred. It was a big deal around here (I'm near Philadelphia). Not sure if the story got around or not (Wikipedia make no mention of it), but I remember them going, literally, from hourly radio play to zilch within a weekend.
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